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Discussion Topic: OU Lineup..Strange?
Don Mahon added to this discussion on October 8, 2008
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When was the last time this happened? Not one Senior, and only 4 juniors.
Name WT CL/EXP Hometown (Previous School)
Allen, Heath 125
SO
Bellefontaine, Ohio (Benjamin Logan)
Boing, Darrin 133
RS FR
Northfield Center, Ohio (St. Peter Chanel)
Christensen, Kevin 149
JR
Springfield, Ohio (Greenon HS)
Ciccarello, Kyle 125
RS FR
South Euclid, Ohio (Brush)
Driscoll, Brian 184
FR
Avon Lake, Ohio (Avon Lake)
Fennell, Michael 141
RS FR
Commack, N.Y. (Commack)
Garcia, Gabe 157
RS FR
Toledo, Ohio (Sylvania Southview)
Gordon, Casey 141
FR
Dublin, Ohio (Dublin Scioto)
Hartshorn, Andy 285
RS FR
Reynoldsburg, Ohio (Reynoldsburg)
Hendon, Rudy 149
FR
Bowling Green, Ohio (Bowling Green)
Horne, Josh 155
SO
Pickerington, Ohio (Pickerington Central)
Iammarino, Chris 197
SO
Lyndhurst, Ohio (Brush)
Ison, Jacob 174
JR
Batavia, Ohio (Batavia)
Keyes, Quentin 133
RS SO
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio (Walsh Jesuit)
Kline, Chris 157
FR
Westerville, Ohio (Westerville North)
Lindsey, Germane 141
SO
Cincinnati, Ohio (Moeller)
Mashkow, Tyler 125
RS FR
Islip, N.Y. (Hofstra)
Morton, Seth 133
JR
Canal Winchester, Ohio (Canal Winchester)
Nelson, Zach 149
FR
Mt. Sterling, Ohio (Madison Plains)
Powell, Justin 197
RS FR
Youngstown, Ohio (Boardman)
Prichard, Matt 285
FR
Dayton, Ohio (Northmont)
Purdue, Nick 174
RS FR
Genoa, Ohio (Genoa)
Ramos, Gabe 125
FR
Hopatcong, N.J. (Hopatcong)
Reedy, Matt 149
RS FR
Hiram, Ohio (Ravenna)
Samson, Tim 197
SO
Toledo, Ohio (Whitmer)
Schecter, Aaron 197
RS FR
Olmsted Falls, Ohio (Olmsted Falls)
Schuth, Erik 184
SO
Spencerport, N.Y. (Brockport)
Silvers, Tim 125
FR
Eaton, Ohio (Eaton)
Speelman, Josh 141
FR
Mansfield, Ohio (Madison)
Star, Zach 197
RS FR
Cincinnati, Ohio (Sycamore)
Tucker, Clay 157
JR
Martins Ferry, Ohio (Martins Ferry)
Weinkam, Tommy 165
RS FR
Cincinnati, Ohio (Moeller)
Wilson, Steve 165
FR
Marion, Ohio (Marion Pleasant)
Wrage, Dylan 189
FR
Janesville, Iowa (Waverly-
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Discussion Topic: OU Lineup..Strange?
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on October 8, 2008
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Wow!!!!!! That is strange??? Josh Horn wrestling 155?????? <crazy>
All kidding aside, does anybody know if this is a common occurence for the Bobcats or is this "just one of those years"? On the other hand though, you really have to be optomistic of your program given the youth, but also the names on that list.
Does anybody know if the juniors are the starters for their respective weight classes?
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Discussion Topic: OU Lineup..Strange?
Dan Cosimi added to this discussion on October 8, 2008
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Ethan Moore wrote up a great preview for the Bobcats which is front and center on the OhioWrestling.Net home page now.
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Discussion Topic: OU Lineup..Strange?
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on October 8, 2008
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Discussion Topic: OU Lineup..Strange?
Don Mahon added to this discussion on October 8, 2008
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Quote from Mark Niemann's post:
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"Does anybody know if the juniors are the starters for their respective weight classes?"
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I would think if Tucker can get to 157 he will be the starter, as well as Ison at 174.
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Discussion Topic: OU Lineup..Strange?
Josh Lowe added to this discussion on October 8, 2008
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Ethan hit a lot of the highlights in the preview. I think what is important to note is that Greenlee is doing a good job of recovering after having multiple "flame-outs" a few years back.
The depth is back in the program, and there is some quality. I think they'll be gunning for third in the MAC, probably ahead of Northern Illinois - behind Kent and obviously Central.
125- Mashkow
133- Keyes
141- Lindsey
149- Reedy
157- Tucker
165- Weinkam
174- Ison/Purdue
184- Schuth
197- Powell
285- Hartshorn
I would say that Reedy and (especially) Weinkam come in as immediately competitive nationally after redshirt seasons - i.e. nationally top 20. Obviously - Lindsey, Tucker, and Ison are pretty proven already; and could see the bottom portions of the national top 20.
Do I see an AA in March 2009? Probably not. Is this something to build upon going forward into 2010 and such? Heck yes.
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Discussion Topic: OU Lineup..Strange?
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on October 8, 2008
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OU has a nice young group in the room. While the starting lineup may struggle a bit (or may surprise), the depth is tremendous. OU is set up for several years with their current roster. Hopefully it all unfolds well (meaning half these guys don't quit/flunk out or get hurt in the next two years).
Nice job Ethan. You make me want to watch this team compete.
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Discussion Topic: OU Lineup..Strange?
Ethan Moore added to this discussion on October 8, 2008
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Hank - thanks.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Retention is key. To a lesser publicized extent, I think Coach Greenlee dealt with the same issues Coach Hellickson dealt with his last few years at OSU. A couple of classes of kids who fit the profile of a top notch college athletes while in HS (solid citizen, good grades, quality wrestling credentials) but call it bad luck or something else, there were a lot of kids who hung 'em up.
Having a couple classes like this in a row can cripple a team with such limited scholarship resources.
I think Coach Greenlee saw the big picture and was able to remove some negative people from the team for the long term good, even though it cost him a coupe tough seasons. Although last year was a struggle, I was impressed with the way the red shirts attacked the season (wrestling 25+ matches) and the way the young talent competed for the varsity line up (Keyes, Lindsey, Schuth, etc). Their performance at the MAC to casual observer would not seem impressive, but they reversed a TON of in season results indicating solid improvement and a good attitude. The current group has tremendous leadership and citizens in kids like Reedy, Weinkam, and Lindsey.
What we ALL should root for is to have four top 20 D1 teams in Ohio. Hopefully this will happen soon.
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Discussion Topic: OU Lineup..Strange?
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on October 8, 2008
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Quote from Ethan Moore's post:
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"Hank - thanks.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Retention is key. To a lesser publicized extent, I think Coach Greenlee dealt with the same issues Coach Hellickson dealt with his last few years at OSU. A couple of classes of kids who fit the profile of a top notch college athletes while in HS (solid citizen, good grades, quality wrestling credentials) but call it bad luck or something else, there were a lot of kids who hung 'em up.
Having a couple classes like this in a row can cripple a team with such limited scholarship resources.
I think Coach Greenlee saw the big picture and was able to remove some negative people from the team for the long term good, even though it cost him a coupe tough seasons. Although last year was a struggle, I was impressed with the way the red shirts attacked the season (wrestling 25+ matches) and the way the young talent competed for the varsity line up (Keyes, Lindsey, Schuth, etc). Their performance at the MAC to casual observer would not seem impressive, but they reversed a TON of in season results indicating solid improvement and a good attitude. The current group has tremendous leadership and citizens in kids like Reedy, Weinkam, and Lindsey.
What we ALL should root for is to have four top 20 D1 teams in Ohio. Hopefully this will happen soon."
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From top to bottom, that is an excellent post. Solid, even.
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Discussion Topic: OU Lineup..Strange?
Luke Moore added to this discussion on October 9, 2008
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Speaking with the coaches, they love this team. Despite some results from the past couple of years, Greenlee and staff have been doing all the right things. And that can be applied to academics and athletics. This is a hard working, classy team that will continue to improve for years to come. I cannort wait to watch them in action. Great article Ethan.
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