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Discussion Topic: Orlando Scales
Ben Golden added to this discussion on March 9, 2009
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I have heard that this top-ranked 215 might not have the grades to get into a D1 school.
Has he committed anywhere or no? I would imagine the tOSU coaches would be in heavy contact with him, because I seem to remember him saying he wanted to go to Ohio State after last year's state tournament.
Does anyone have any info that they can share?
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Discussion Topic: Orlando Scales
Pat Costilow added to this discussion on March 9, 2009
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I have no idea whether or not this is true, but I would find it hard to believe that a student at a catholic school who has been eligible every semester could have grades that low. I would be suspicious of this. If anything, maybe test scores.
To my knowledge, he has not commited anywhere. When we talked to him at the OSU wrestle-offs, he said he had not.
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Discussion Topic: Orlando Scales
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 9, 2009
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Scales would fit in nicely at CSU.
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Discussion Topic: Orlando Scales
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on March 9, 2009
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Quote from Pat Costilow's post:
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"I have no idea whether or not this is true, but I would find it hard to believe that a student at a catholic school who has been eligible every semester could have grades that low. I would be suspicious of this. If anything, maybe test scores.
To my knowledge, he has not commited anywhere. When we talked to him at the OSU wrestle-offs, he said he had not."
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You clearly have fallen for the myth of Catholic schools. Or all priviate schools for that matter.
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Discussion Topic: Orlando Scales
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 9, 2009
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Good point, Gary.
I've said this before but it bears repeating.
No way, no how is Orlando Scales a good D1 prospect. He has great hips and power but his technique is poor for such an accomplished competitor. I've watched him several times and he has no offense whatsoever. He wrestles like a 1970's 285 with his double underhooks. If he could at least use his underhooks to hit a leg attack, I'd be more inclined to think he has potential. How is a guy with zero leg attacks going to win matches in the Big Ten? I don't even know if he has any idea how to finish a shot. It's not easy to teach that stuff when you're in college. I think he's a hard working wrestler with great physical gifts and he deserves credit for his great high school accomplishments. But at the next level, he'd be fodder for much more skilled competitors. They'd ride him into the ground and pick him apart on his feet once he tired.
He's a project and the Buckeyes already have plenty of those at 285. Like I said...he'd make a good Viking. They need anyone with talent regardless of skill level.
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Discussion Topic: Orlando Scales
Pat Costilow added to this discussion on March 9, 2009
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Gary,
Facts are facts.
Fact one- In order to be eligible to play a sport, there are academic requirements.
Fact two- If a college program wants you, they can get you in unless you have really bad grades or test scores.
If you have the grades to stay eligible, which are usually around 2.5 or higher at many schools, private or public, you will be eligible by the NCAA's requirements. Like I said, I doubt grades are an issue. If it were true that Scales isn't eligible, which I have no knowledge of and on which I will not speculate, I would guess it would be test scores and not grades.
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Discussion Topic: Orlando Scales
Tony Bradberry added to this discussion on March 9, 2009
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I have worked out with orlando and he does have a leg attack, but he is much more comfortable throwing.In fact he actually is really good at scrambling for a big guy. If there is any where he needs to work it is top and bottom. I think he would be a great asset at northern michigian at the olympic education center. Trust me if he wasn't that great Michigian,Ohio state, and other big ten schols wouldn't have courted him.
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Discussion Topic: Orlando Scales
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 10, 2009
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Tony: I trust your word on these matters. As for my comments...I can only go by what I've seen.
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Discussion Topic: Orlando Scales
Ben Golden added to this discussion on March 10, 2009
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If not at Ohio State, I have to think he would at least be a great pick up for KSU, since Porter will be graduating.
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Discussion Topic: Orlando Scales
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on March 10, 2009
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Quote from Pat Costilow's post:
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"Gary,
Facts are facts.
Fact one- In order to be eligible to play a sport, there are academic requirements.
Fact two- If a college program wants you, they can get you in unless you have really bad grades or test scores.
If you have the grades to stay eligible, which are usually around 2.5 or higher at many schools, private or public, you will be eligible by the NCAA's requirements. Like I said, I doubt grades are an issue. If it were true that Scales isn't eligible, which I have no knowledge of and on which I will not speculate, I would guess it would be test scores and not grades."
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Excepts grades are often not facts, but rather the opinion of the teacher. They can be made almost anything the teacher or administration wants them to be, and this can be done at a Catholic school just as easily if not moreso than at a public school.
Again, don't fall for the myth.
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