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Discussion Topic: Top 12 rankings just OH, PA, NJ and #1
Jeff Sitler added to this discussion on March 31, 2009
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From AWN, the thing most amazing, of the 14 weight classes, only 4 don't have an OH, PA, or NJ boy #1
103
1. Nick Brascetta-Soph, St. Paris, OH
2. Mark Grey-Fr, Blair Academy, NJ
4. Jimmy Gulibon-Fr, Derry, PA
5. Kory Mines-Jr, Maple Heights, OH
5. Nick Frankavilla-Soph, High Point, NJ
7 Joe Orecchio-Soph, Don Bosco Prep, NJ
8 Matt Sausman-Soph, Camden Catholic, NJ
112
1. Devin Carter-Jr, Christiansburg, VA
2. Evan Silver-Soph, Blair Academy, NJ
5. Nico Megaludis-Soph, Franklin Regional, PA
6. Zach Horan-Soph, Nazareth, PA
7. Rob Deutsch-Soph, Eastern Regional, NJ
12. Tyler Biscaha-Sr, Jackson Memorial, NJ
119
1. Jamie Clark-Jr, St. Edward, OH
2. Shane Young-Sr, Penn-Trafford, PA
4. Sean Boyle-Sr, Blair Academy, NJ
5. Hunter Stieber-Soph, Monroeville, OH
8. Vinnie Dellafave-Sr, Toms River, NJ
125
1. Logan Stieber-Jr, Monroeville, OH
3. Sammy White-Sr, Massillon Perry, OH
7. Zach Neibert-Sr, St. Paris, OH
8. Frank Cagnina-Jr, Queen of Peace, NJ
130
1. Chris Villalonga-Jr, Blair Academy, NJ
6. Joe Waltko-Sr, North Allegheny, PA
7. Felipe Martinez-Fr, St. Paris, OH
10. Cam Tessari-Soph, Monroeville, OH
135
1. David Taylor-Sr, St. Paris, OH
3. Josh Kindig-Jr, Blue Mountain, PA
9. Austin Ormsbee-Soph, Blair Academy, NJ
140
1. Andrew Alton-Jr, Central Mountain, PA
2. Collin Palmer-Sr, St. Edward, OH
4. Anthony Baldosara-Jr, Eastern Regional, NJ
10. Dane Johnson-Sr, Shady Side Academy, PA
145
1. Dylan Alton-Jr, Central Mountain, PA
3. Joey Napoli-Sr, Cumberland Valley, PA
11. Dave Habat-Jr, St. Ignatius, OH
152
1. Marshall Peppelman-Jr, Central Dauphin, PA
10. Steve Santos-Sr, Brick Memorial, NJ
160
1. Dallas Bailey-Sr, Catoosa, OK
3. Zach Toal-Sr, Troy Christian, OH
4. Jake Kemerer-Sr, Hempfield, PA
7. Kyle Lang-Sr, Brecksville, OH
171
1. Chris Phillips-Soph, Monroeville, OH
2. Ed Ruth-Sr, Blair Academy, NJ
7. Mike Evans-Jr, Cumberland Valley, PA
8. Brandon Ard-Sr, Watchung Hills, NJ
10. Caleb Kolb-Sr, Grove City, PA
189
1. Chris Perry-Sr, Stillwater, OK
2. Max Huntley-Sr, Blair Academy, NJ
3. Andrew Campolattano-Soph, Bound Brook, NJ
5. Jon Fausey-Sr, Line Mountain, PA
6. Tony Dallago-Sr, Central Dauphin, PA
10. Mac Mancuso-Sr, Holy Spirit, NJ
12. Jonathon Becker-Sr, Bergen Catholic, NJ
215
1. Orlando Scales-Sr, Cincinnati Elder, OH
3. Joe McMullen-Sr, Wyoming Seminary, PA
9. Ben Krakower-Sr, Blair Academy, NJ
11. Antonio Giorgio-Jr, Warwick PA
285
1. Eloheim Palma-Sr, Cary, NC
5. Jeremy Johnson-Sr, Brecksville, OH
6. Evan Craig-Jr, Abington Heights, PA
7. Sean Owen-Sr, Clearfield, PA
9. Mike McMullan-Jr, Wyoming Seminary, PA
11. Jimmy Lawson-Sr, Manchester, NJ
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Discussion Topic: Top 12 rankings just OH, PA, NJ and #1
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on March 31, 2009
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"only 4 don't have an OH, PA, or NJ boy #1"
Ohio alot of # 1s this year but PA more kids ranked.
i coined phrase many years ago, Ohio, PA and NJ connecting states is "
The Wrestling Belt".
Example 28 of the 80 Div I AAs this year were from those 3 states, thats 35 %.
Large but not huge states with combined population less than California's and less than Texas/Florida combined. The "Wrestling Belt", its real, it has the tradition and the talent, enjoy it..
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Discussion Topic: Top 12 rankings just OH, PA, NJ and #1
Marlo Stanfield added to this discussion on March 31, 2009
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At 171 how is Philips ranked ahead of Ruth? I like your rankings, and know how hard that other website gives you, but come on that one is ridiculous.
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Discussion Topic: Top 12 rankings just OH, PA, NJ and #1
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on March 31, 2009
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i guess we don't think its "ridiculous" -- Ruth edged Phillips 3-2 in Ironman quarters, but Ruth then lost in first round by pin 2 weeks later at the Beast. Ruth no recent fargo on his resume-- Phillips 2X cadet fr champ, in fact barely even scored on in 2 years.
Ruth pinned in first round at Beast, should we pretend that doesnt count ? Ruth in PA never higher than 4th at state, should we pretend he has been PA state champ ?? -- it all counts, a ranking is not just head to head.
Ruth a big talent i agree, but
consistency has been a problem for him
thrughout career.
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Discussion Topic: Top 12 rankings just OH, PA, NJ and #1
Marlo Stanfield added to this discussion on April 1, 2009
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Bob come on that was a fluke pin, its not like he was losing and then got pinned he was on his way to a tech. He WOULD have won the Beast. He def should be ahead of Philips. This def looks like a homer ranking, I am sorry Bob, like I said I think for the most part you do a great job and you are always available for comments and I hate the way that other website treats you. Just my two cents.
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Discussion Topic: Top 12 rankings just OH, PA, NJ and #1
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on April 1, 2009
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"He WOULD have won the Beast. He def should be ahead of Philips. This def looks like a homer ranking"
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knock it off, cut the insults, u don't know me---- fact is editor Ron Good of Oklahoma and i try to be fair to everyone and it aint easy.
of course u entitled to your opinion, rankings not an exact science, we aren't always right -- but we like Phillips # 1 because of his overall career. If u saw the match, Phillips took most of the shots, was more aggressive, but Ruth was athletic enough to scramble away and he made one 3rd period tkdwn stand up-- Ruth deserved to win but it wasnt conclusive at all, 3-2.
and why did Ruth take 4th and 5th in PA states, why not 3rd ??
after losing to Q Wright which is no disgrace,
why couldnt he take 3rd
his last 2 years in PA ?
u say Ruth WOULD have won the Beast, that assumption can certainly be challenged.
Mike Evans
who did win 171 at the Beast is awfully good himself, he was undefeated until suspended for dumb conduct prior to states and Evans won Beast finals, 12-2.
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Discussion Topic: Top 12 rankings just OH, PA, NJ and #1
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on April 1, 2009
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**** i should have said
Mike Evans
undefeated at 171, he did move up twice to met AWN #6 Tony Dellago at 189 and he split with Dellago. So Evans has a loss. Evans awfully good, only a junior too.
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Discussion Topic: Top 12 rankings just OH, PA, NJ and #1
Marlo Stanfield added to this discussion on April 1, 2009
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Bob, let's not go there I did not insult you. You make it very hard to have a constructive conversation with you if you are going to act this sensitive to a post about a ranking that I just said that I think is a homer ranking. I didn't say F U Bob, insult your intelligence or call you out of your name. So calm down Bob, I will leave it at that because I don't want you to leave this website thinking that I maybe ganging up on you. But I will leave it like this, you keep saying that he took 3rd or 4th in PA AAA states like it is some virus, just remember A Alton was not a PA state champ when he beat a 3x Ohio Champ! PA AAA is BEAST!
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Discussion Topic: Top 12 rankings just OH, PA, NJ and #1
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on April 1, 2009
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in my business being called a "homer" is a big insult. And i never have been, ive made mistakes but not from being a homer.
U post, "you keep saying that he took 3rd or 4th in PA AAA states like it is some virus, just remember A Alton was not a PA state champ when he beat a 3x Ohio Champ! PA AAA is BEAST!"
No Ruth didnt take 3rd & 4th,
he took 4th & 5th
which means he lost in the wrestlebacks too.
No 1 is a big deal
, have to look at every angle.
thats WHY we brought the Alton's in to the Ironman, to possibly beat the likes of Palmer and whoever was in their wt classes. When a Phillips and a L Stieber takes their only high school loss in the Ironman, we like that level of competition.
We don't protect our Ohio stars,
we specifically bring guys in who can beat them. Thats what makes Ironman special.
The Altons both won
fargo Jr national freestyle titles last summer
, so they werent underdogs-- i thought whichever one faced Collin Palmer would have
a good chance
to win. i wasnt surprised at all.
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Discussion Topic: Top 12 rankings just OH, PA, NJ and #1
Jeff Sitler added to this discussion on April 3, 2009
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Win Magazine March 20th rankings
103 pounds
Rk Name Year Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. Nick Brascetta So St. Paris, OH Graham
2. Mark Grey Fr Blairstown Township, NJ Blair Academy.
4. Nick Francavilla So Sussex, NJ High Point
5. Jimmy Gulibon Fr Derry, PA
9. Dominick Malone Fr Kingston, PA Wyoming Seminary
10. Kory Mines Jr Maple Heights, OH
11. Joe Orecchio So Paterson, NJ Don Bosco Preparatory
14. Shyheim Brown Fr Harrisburg, PA Central Dauphin
15. Corey Keener Fr Schuylkill Haven, PA Blue Mountain
17. Dylan D’Urso Fr Greenville, PA H.A. Reynolds
18. Matt Sausman So Cherry Hill, NJ Camden Catholic
19. Tyler Fraley So Colts Neck, NJ
112 pounds
Rk Name Yr Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. Ryak Finch Jr Safford, AZ
3. Evan Silver So Blairstown Township, NJ Blair Academy
7. Nico Megaludis So Murrysville, PA Franklin Regional
8. Zach Horan So Nazareth, PA
9. Robert Deutsch So Voorhees, NJ Eastern
11. Jerome Robinson Jr Cleveland, OH St. Ignatius
12. Mason Beckman So Greenville, PA H.A. Reynolds
13. Luke Frey So Montoursville, PA
16. Gus Sako Jr Lakewood, OH St. Edward Prospects: Virginia, Cornell, Penn
17. Kagan Squire Fr Wadsworth, OH
119 pounds
Rk Name Yr Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. Jamie Clark Jr Lakewood, OH St. Edward
3. Sean Boyle Sr Blairstown Township, NJ Blair Academy. Michigan
4. Shane Young Sr Harrison City, PA Penn-Trafford West Virginia
5. Vinnie Dellefave Sr Toms River, NJ East Rutgers
9. Hunter Stieber So Monroeville, OH
16. Mitchell Port Sr Bellefonte, PA
18. Anthony Zanetta Sr Pittsburgh, PA Keystone Oaks
19. A.J. Schopp Jr Tyrone, PA
125 pounds
Rk Name Yr Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. Logan Stieber Jr Monroeville, OH
3. Zach Neibert Sr St. Paris, OH Graham Wisconsin
4. Sam White Sr Massillon, OH Perry
9. Sam Sherlock Jr West Mifflin, PA
10. Nathan Pennesi Sr Latrobe, PA Greater Latrobe
14. Pat Owens Jr Fort Washington, PA Germantown Academy
15. Garrett Frey Sr Blairstown Township, NJ Blair Academy.
18. Frank Cagnina Jr North Arlington, NJ Oueen of Peace
20. Eric Dunnet Sr Voorhees, NJ Eastern
130 pounds
Rk Name Yr Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. Chris Villalonga Jr Blairstown Township, NJ Blair Academy.
5. Felipe Martinez Fr St. Paris, OH Graham
6. Joe Waltko Sr Wexford, PA North Allegheny Clarion
12. Nick Hodgkins So Wyomissing, PA
13. Frank Martellotti Jr Pittsburgh, PA Shady Side Academy
14. Cody Kelly Jr Greenville, PA H.A. Reynolds
17. Cortlandt Choate Sr Schuylkill Haven, PA Blue Mountain Brown
19. Shawn Fayette Jr Miamisburg, OH
135 pounds
Rk Name Yr Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. Eric Grajales Sr Brandon, FL Michigan
2. David Taylor Sr St. Paris, OH Graham Iowa State
3. Josh Kindig Jr Schuylkill Haven, PA Blue Mountain
11. Austin Ormsbee So Blairstown Township, NJ Blair Academy.
12. Nicky Gordon Sr Kingston, PA Wyoming Seminary Virginia
13. Taylor Walsh Jr Cherry Hill, NJ Camden Catholic
14. Kodie Silvestri Sr Hamburg, NJ Wallkill Valley Prospects: Iowa Central CC, Wartburg, Nassau CC
18. Colin Shober Jr Leesport, PA Schuylkill Valley
140 pounds
Rk Name Yr Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. Andrew Alton Jr Mill Hall, PA Central Mountain
2. Collin Palmer Sr Lakewood, OH St. Edward Ohio State
4. Dane Johnson Sr Pittsburgh, PA Shady Side Academy Pitt
8. Anthony Baldosaro Jr Voorhees, NJ Eastern
20. Harrison Hightower Jr Hunting Valley, OH University School
145 pounds
Rk Name Yr Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. R.J. Peña Sr Salem, OR Sprague
2. Dylan Alton Jr Mill Hall, PA Central Mountain
3. Joey Napoli Sr Mechanicsburg, PA Cumberland Val. Lehigh
5. Brian Stephens Sr St. Paris, OH Graham
13. Seth Horner Sr Massillon, OH Perry Prospects: Notre Dame College, Findlay
17. David Habat Jr Cleveland, OH St. Ignatius
18. Pierce Harger Jr Cincinnati, OH Archbishop Moeller
19. Jake O’Hara Sr Mountain Top, PA Crestwood Columbia
152 pounds
Rk Name Yr Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. Marshall Peppelman Jr Harrisburg, PA Central Dauphin
8. Brandon Rolnick Jr Lawrenceville, NJ School
14. Josh Demas Jr Westerville, OH North
15. Nick Sulzer Jr Lakewood, OH St. Edward
16. Adam Hogue Sr Blairstown Township, NJ Blair Academy
18. Mark Havers So Bradford, PA
19. Bryce Busler Sr Mechanicsburg, PA Cumberland Valley
160 pounds
Rk Name Yr Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. Jake Kemerer Sr Greensburg, PA Hempfield Oklahoma
3. Zach Toal Sr Troy, OH Christian Missouri
6. Kyle Lang Sr Broadview Heights, OH Breckville
7. Jim Sheptock Sr Northampton, PA
8. Corey Lear Sr Benton, PA Bucknell
9. Matt Cunningham Jr Pittsburgh, PA Shady Side Academy
14. Kenny Courts So Harrisburg, PA Central Dauphin
17. James Fleming Sr West Mifflin, PA
171 pounds
Rk Name Yr Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. Edward Ruth Sr Blairstown Township, NJ Blair Academy. Penn State
2. Chris Phillips So Monroeville, OH
5. Caleb Kolb Sr Grove City, PA Nebraska
14. Brendan Ard Sr Watchung, NJ Hills Wisconsin
15. Dan Seidenberg Sr Hazlet, NJ Raritan
16. Mike Evans Jr Mechanicsburg, PA Cumberland Valley
19. Nick Heflin Sr Massillon, OH Perry Ohio State
189 pounds
Rk Name Yr Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. Chris Perry Sr Stillwater, OK Oklahoma State
2. And. Campolattano So Bound Brook, NJ
3. Max Huntley Sr Blairstown Township, NJ Blair Academy
4. Jonathan Fausey Sr Herndon, PA Line Mountain Virginia
9. Mac Mancuso Sr Absecon, NJ Holy Spirit West Virginia
10. Jonathan Becker Sr Oradell, NJ Bergen Catholic Virginia
12. Tony Dallago Sr Harrisburg, PA Central Dauphin
17. Max Thomusseit Jr St. Paris, OH Graham
18. Nick Mills Sr Hunting Valley, OH University School
215 pounds
Rk Name Yr Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. Orlando Scales Sr Cincinnati, OH Elder
4. Glenn Carson Sr Manahawkin, NJ Southern
6. Brandon Palik Sr Hellertown, PA Saucon Valley
7. Joe McMullan Sr Kingston, PA Wyoming Seminary Bucknell
14. Antonio Giorgio Jr Lititz, PA Warwick
19. Ben Krakower Sr Blairstown Township, NJ Blair Academy
Heavyweight
Rk Name Yr Hometown/High School College Recruiting Status
1. Eloheim Palma Sr Cary, NC
5. Sean Owen Sr Clearfield, PA
8. Evan Craig Jr Clarks Summit, PA Abington Heights
9. Jimmy Lawson Jr Manchester, NJ
10. Jeremy Johnson Sr Broadview Heights, OH Brecksville Ohio
11. Adam Walls Sr Beavercreek, OH
12. Michael McMullan Jr Kingston, PA Wyoming Seminary
14. James Meder Sr Parma Heights, OH Valley Forge
15. Dan Walker Sr Franklinville, NJ Delsea
20. Ben Buzzelli Jr Wadsworth, OH
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