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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

So who you picking

125 Garrett
133 Graff
141 Logan
149 Northwestern kid
157 Ness
165 Taylor
174 Perry
184 Ruth
197 Heflin
285. Nelson

Team Champs Minnesota

I don't see Taylor getting bonus points and I see Ruth only getting a major.

How big our the 2 pts. Retherford got for for the default.



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

174: Howe (OU) v. Perry (OkSt)

Perry dominated in the top position. I thought he was backing away early. Should have been hit possibly twice by the time the third period rolled around. I'm very impressed with that win.

184: Ruth (PSU) v. Sheptock (Maryland)

I thought, as the match was unfolding, Ruth was going to get the major. It didn't happen, but the match was never in doubt. 3x Champ; that's impressive.

197: Heflin (tOSU) v. Cox (MIZZ)

One second. Bah!!!!!!!! Son of a buh. Turns out it was half a second. One the one hand, live by the sword, die by the sword. Heflin's strategy of limited offense cost him here. One the other hand, that friggin sucks. A HALF A SECOND!!!!!!! Buh. Not sure how to deal with this.

285: Nelson (MINN) v. Gwiazdowski (NCSt)

Gwizz has exceptional movement for a 285. He was able to offset Nelson's size advantage with constant movement and getting angles. That was a very nice win. And it tightens the team race as we round the corner.

125: Garrett (Cornell) v. Delgado (ILL)

Madness!!!!! Crazy amounts of scrambles! And, oddly enough, a couple stalling calls! Bottom line: the change-over from 285 to 125 was eye-opening!!!

133: Graff (WISC) v. Ramos (Iowa)

I thought Graff had it figured out. The crazy thing to me is Coach Davis telling Kessinich that Graff can't roll around; that's when he gets in trouble. Well, well, well... Congrats, Ramos.

141: Stieber (tOSU) v. Carter (VT)

Many #DotNet-ers have stated it on here; Logan's finals match was last night. He won that, won this finals match, and won his third national title in as many years. As Tommy Rowlands stated after his semifinal win over Crum (Oklahoma)... "ONE MORE!!!"

149: Kindig (OkSt) v. Tsirtsis (NW)

Unreal. What a stud; such composure for an RS freshman. His ability to fight for every point is what made (and makes) the difference.

157: Dieringer (OkSt) v. Ness (MINN)

Again, you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Kindig cut off the opportunities for anything big from Ness and it showed through with a major decision. Ness was able to work in some flair with a cartwheel to a scramble, but that was the extent.

165: Taylor (PSU) v. Caldwell (OkSt)

Seriously, D.T.'s so silky smooth and good. Mad props!



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Christopher Henderson added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

Wow! Who was the last wrestler to lose in the finals for stalling?

6:50 before the first scoring attempt. Not a good game plan.

Now let's see Cox try to beat Snyder!



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Patrick Campbell added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

Quote from Christopher Henderson's post:

"Wow! Who was the last wrestler to lose in the finals for stalling?

6:50 before the first scoring attempt. Not a good game plan.

Now let's see Cox try to beat Snyder!"



He already has….



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Christopher Henderson added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

Touche, Patrick!

I've got a bad feeling JDen's going to keep doing it. Snyder's been wrestling at 211 lbs and above for three years now. It's going to be a bear cutting down to 197 and I'm worried he's not going to be the same wrestler.



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Patrick Campbell added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

I'm just concerned that he is a year of experience behind Cox in D1 college wrestling. They are so closely matched that it may be the edge for Cox. Cox and Snyder are going to have some wars over the next 3 years.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope Kyle Snyder blows him out of the water. I'm not sure anyone can do that to Cox. Cox beat Snyder 1-0, 1-0. So we know he at least had the ability to neutralize Snyder's offense. What we don't know is, how much Snyder has improved over the last year (at least not with an apples to apples comparison to Cox).



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Freddy Carr added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

I have a feeling Stieber/Clark is going to be a dogfight.

I like Stieber when it comes to dogfights. GO LOGAN GO BUCKS!!!



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Patrick Campbell added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

Stieber would kill Clark. But it should be a good match with Carter ;-)



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Freddy Carr added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

Quote from Patrick Campbell's post:

"Stieber would kill Clark. But it should be a good match with Carter ;-)"



Ha! I've had to much to drink. ;-)



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Casey Talbott added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

Quote from Christopher Henderson's post:

"Wow! Who was the last wrestler to lose in the finals for stalling?

6:50 before the first scoring attempt. Not a good game plan.

Now let's see Cox try to beat Snyder!"



Every man sees things his own way, of course, and is entitled to his own opinion. But fwiw, I don't agree with yours. Cox was the aggressor, yes, but this was not Heflin's first scoring attempt. His first to which he was committed to this extent, yes, but on an earlier occasion or two he'd tried to lock it up as well. I thought the first stall call was justified/fine. I thought the second was horseshit, made by a weak ref who caved to the crowd. The match should have gone to sudden victory.



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Patrick Campbell added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

Pretty workman like for Logan. Well done young man. Let' go get number 4 and finish what you started!






And while Retherford got 5th, he probably really is the 2nd best kid in this class.



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Nicholas Sestito added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

Logan seals the deal with a major decision, 10-1.



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Jack Muni added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

It took three years, but FINALLY A FINALS WITHOUT ANY CONTROVERSY!! Loved it, great job Logan.



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

Quote from Patrick Campbell's post:

"Pretty workman like for Logan. Well done young man. Let' go get number 4 and finish what you started!






And while Retherford got 5th, he probably really is the 2nd best kid in this class."



I can see 3rd best because port did beat him



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Discussion Topic: 2014 Finals
Freddy Carr added to this discussion on March 22, 2014

3 years ago I bet a buddy that PSU would win every NCAA tournament that D.T. and Ruth both wrestled. They are just too big of point scorers to beat (considering supporting cast).



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