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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on May 31, 2014

Sunday, May 31, 2014

Men's Freestyle:
57 KG (Angel Escobedo) , 97 KG (J.D. Bergman) & 125 KG (Tervel Dlagnev

Anybody watching? I'll most likely be following along on twitter from time to time.

Whatevs. Post upcoming matches, results and general discussions here

#WTT2014



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Doug Brandt added to this discussion on May 31, 2014

Saturday, May 31
Men’s Freestyle: 57 KG, 97 KG, and 125 KG
Women’s Freestyle: 48 KG, 58 KG and 69 KG
10:00 am – Session I - Preliminaries, Quarterfinals, Semifinals, Challenge Finals/Consolations and Third Place, Challenge Tournament finals
6:00 pm – Session II – Final World Team Trials and True Second Place Matches

Sunday, June 1
Men’s Freestyle: 65 KG, 74 KG and 86 KG
Women’s Freestyle: 53 KG, 63 KG and 75 KG
10:00 am - Session I - Preliminaries, Quarterfinals, Semifinals, Challenge Finals/Consolations and Third Place, Challenge Tournament finals
6:00 p.n. - Session II – Final World Team Trials and True Second Place Matches



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on May 31, 2014

@USAWrestling: Escobedo downs McKnight 8-1 in 57 free quarters: Escobedo looking good after injuring his ankle at the U.S. Open

I'm pretty sure he'll fave Ramos next in the semis.



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Nicholas Sestito added to this discussion on May 31, 2014

Ramos over Escobedo, 2-0. Perhaps an injury since he injury defaulted out of his match with McDonough afterwards?



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on May 31, 2014

Men's Freestyle - Finals

57kg: Ramos v. Hazewinkel
97kg: Kilgore v. Varner
125kg: Rey v. Dlagnev



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Ethan Moore added to this discussion on June 1, 2014

Some new blood coming through the ranks at 57K is a good thing for the US. Ramos, Garrett, and Megaludis are all strong candidates for the future of the weight.

Ramos wrestled very smart, very similar to his NCAA tournament. Very defensive.



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on June 1, 2014

Quote from Ethan Moore's post:

"Some new blood coming through the ranks at 57K is a good thing for the US. Ramos, Garrett, and Megaludis are all strong candidates for the future of the weight.

Ramos wrestled very smart, very similar to his NCAA tournament. Very defensive."



His "win" over Megaludis showed a major flaw, IMHO, in the current freestyle rules. This "almost takedown" rules just blows.

I do think that he has a great chance of doing very well at the World tournament -- he is tough to score on.



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on June 1, 2014

Quote from Brady Hiatt's post:

"

Quote from Ethan Moore's post:

"Some new blood coming through the ranks at 57K is a good thing for the US. Ramos, Garrett, and Megaludis are all strong candidates for the future of the weight.

Ramos wrestled very smart, very similar to his NCAA tournament. Very defensive."



His "win" over Megaludis showed a major flaw, IMHO, in the current freestyle rules. This "almost takedown" rules just blows.

I do think that he has a great chance of doing very well at the World tournament -- he is tough to score on."



You are too kind on the "almost takedown" rule. Most ridiculous thing I've heard of since the follow your man system, or even placing 8 in three divisions in Ohio high school competition.



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Brandon Sommers added to this discussion on June 1, 2014

Quote from Mark Niemann's post:

"Most ridiculous thing I've heard of since the follow your man system, or even placing 8 in three divisions in Ohio high school competition."



Awww, you think having 42 state champions and 336 state placers PER YEAR makes the terms lose their significance?



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Ben Golden added to this discussion on June 1, 2014

I also think the age-old slip-throw rule and the current "win by criteria" things are ludicrous, but the rules are better than they were a year or so ago.



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Ben Golden added to this discussion on June 1, 2014

Great match at 65 kg.

Nothing sucks the excitement out of a wrestling broadcast like women's matches every other match...



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on June 1, 2014

Quote from Ben Golden's post:

"Great match at 65 kg.

Nothing sucks the excitement out of a wrestling broadcast like women's matches every other match..."



Expand your mind Mr. Golden.



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Christopher Henderson added to this discussion on June 1, 2014

Expanded mind or not. Ben's right. The quality of action isn't the same.

Some women's sports are good for spectating, like tennis, or volleyball, but wrestling just isn't one of them. People can seek out their competitions all they want, but it seems odd to intersperse it in the middle of a men's tournament. Sort of like going to an NBA game and getting a WNBA game for free every other quarter. It's an interesting gesture, but I'm not sure it helps. Let's have all the men compete in one day, then all the women the next. Everyone is happy.



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on June 2, 2014

I was at the 2012 Olympic Trials and I'll say this - the women's lighter weights had my attention due to solid action. The only reason I thought it was hard to follow was because I had no background story line (aka I didn't follow women's FS enough to know the match ups. But that would be my issue, not theirs.

The upper weights...that's a different story.



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Discussion Topic: World Team Trials - 2014
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on June 2, 2014

Chris/Ben: I get the point but women's wrestling is vital to the survival of the sport and needs its male audience to pay attention. Not to mention that I've seen plenty of great women's matches that I'd never have watched if I didn't have it foisted upon me.

Just trying to look out for the sport's best interests.



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