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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Matt Mace added to this discussion on January 25, 2016
Billed as the toughest tournament in the world, held in Krasnoyarsk, Siberia. Our Buckeyes, Logan Stieber and Kyle Snyder are gonna test their mettle against the Russians and Iranians among others this weekend.
Rumor on twitter is Sadulaev will wrestle at 97kg for a potential matchup with Snyder.
Both Stieber and Snyder will wrestle on Saturday night at 10PM-2AM (weigh ins and drawing 5:30AM Sat)with the finals for 65,70,97 kg on Sunday morning 3:30AM-5:00AM
You couldn't invent this kind of drama!
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on January 25, 2016
What about this event earns the title "toughest tournament in the world"?
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Casey Talbott added to this discussion on January 25, 2016
Quote from Mark Niemann's post:
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"What about this event earns the title "toughest tournament in the world"?"
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Should come with an asterisk, "Excluding the Ironman". :-)
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on January 25, 2016
Quote from Casey Talbott's post:
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Should come with an asterisk, "Excluding the Ironman". :-)"
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He he he...
ps: it's IRONMAN.
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Pat Altvater added to this discussion on January 25, 2016
Sadulev can't even get invited to wrestle in THE IRONMAN!
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Curt Heinrichs added to this discussion on January 25, 2016
Quote from Mark Niemann's post:
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"What about this event earns the title "toughest tournament in the world"?"
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It's in Siberia. That makes it the toughest tournament in my world.
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on January 25, 2016
If Bob P's not running it, it's second best.
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Matt Mace added to this discussion on January 29, 2016
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Deven Dittrich added to this discussion on January 29, 2016
Quote from Mark Niemann's post:
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"What about this event earns the title "toughest tournament in the world"?"
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I may have my history wrong, so someone please feel free to correct me... I believe that the Yaragin is the former Tblisi tournament, which was regarded as the toughest in the world due to the weight classes being full of Soviet wrestlers instead of just the one Soviet that you would have to beat to win the World Championship. No doubt that Tblisi was even tougher back when the USSR was still in existence. After the breakup of the USSR, a large number of the smaller former Soviet republics could now field teams/entries in the world championships - wrestlers that may have been 2nd, 3rd, or 4th teamers in the USSR now had to be contended with along with having to beat Russia's #1 wrestler. With the breakup of the USSR, I'd have to think that the World Championships are now tougher to win than the Yaragin, but the weight classes at the Yaragin are populated with numerous Russians, Iranians, and all of the other "-stans" that have a proximate location. Whether or not the moniker "the toughest tournament in the world" is still accurate is questionable. However, the slogan looks good in the press releases and some capitalist-embracing Russkie probably trademarked it, so the phrase gets dusted off, polished up, and thrown out there every year for this meat grinder.
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Matt Mace added to this discussion on January 30, 2016
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Jack Muni added to this discussion on January 31, 2016
On those chest locks, how do they not give Logan exposure points also?
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Matt Mace added to this discussion on January 31, 2016
Quote from Jack Muni's post:
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"On those chest locks, how do they not give Logan exposure points also?"
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My only answer is, because it's in Russia! Tough break for Logie. He was extremely aggressive, but what an exciting match.
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Jack Muni added to this discussion on January 31, 2016
Logan shoots those leg attacks and gets caught with those chest locks. Did the Russian even take a shot? all counter moves.
BTW Snyder looked great in his first match.
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
David Rourke added to this discussion on January 31, 2016
Snyder just dislocated the guys shoulder with a snap down...OUCH!!!
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Discussion Topic: Ivan Yariguin International Grand Prix- January 29-31, 2016
Rex Holman added to this discussion on January 31, 2016
Snyder and Varner both looking awesome. Yarigin is upper level tournament. If you are not prepared to win, your weaknesses will get exposed. I know from personal experience.
The problem with Logan against international competition is that positions he is engaging are not collegiate rules. The positions lend themselves to a lot of wrestling which he simply was not contested or challenged at before. The rules of engagement changed. He is scoring lots of points against the highest level of international wrestlers, but unfortunately he is giving up a lot of position and points as well. Basically, he is going through a learning curve. The ability to adapt relies solely on the willingness to understand what scores on you and adjust accordingly.
I saw J.D. Bergman moved out to the Springs to prepare differently and just won the Schultz. I don't tend to put much stock and other systems until they are proven. Typically, people have an idea which may have some merit, but it's benefit is marginal and most of the resources go into promotion and sales. If you hear the phrase "used by professional athletes" then it is largely hype.
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