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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on November 20, 2018
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There are some absolutely loaded weight classes.
Teams
Air Force
American
Arizona State 12
Army
Bingham
Brown
Bucknell
Cal Poly
Cal Baptist
Campbell
CSU Bakersfield
Central Michigan
Columbia
Cornell 15
Drexel
Duke
Edinboro
Embry Riddle
Fresno State
Harvard
Iowa State
Kent State 24
Michigan 6
Minnesota 7
Missouri 8
Navy
Nebraska 9
Nebraska-Kearny
Northwestern 13
North Carolina 21
North Dakota State
North Idaho College
Northern Colorado
Northern Iowa 11
Ohio State 2
Oklahoma
Oregon State 23
Pittsburgh
Michigan State
Purdue
Rutgers
Stanford
Utah Valley
Virginia
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
Ranked wrestlers per InterMat
125
2 3 5 6 8 9 10 11 15 17 20
133
2 5 7 9 12 13 14 15 16 18 19 20
141
1 2 3 5 8 9 12 13 18 19 20
149
3 4 6 7 9 10 12 16 17 19 20
157
3 4 5 6 7 8 11 14 15 19 20
165
6 7 8 9 10 13 14 15 16 17 18 20
174
1 3 4 5 9 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 19 20
184
1 2 5 8 9 10 13 15 16 18 19 20
197
2 3 4 5 8 9 10 11 13 14 16 17 18 19 20
285.
2 7 8 11 12 13 15 16 17 19 20
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Bruce Andrews added to this discussion on November 20, 2018
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No way a 20th ranked wrestler is going to miss this event!
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Luke Moore added to this discussion on November 20, 2018
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Quote from Bruce Andrews's post:
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"No way a 20th ranked wrestler is going to miss this event!"
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Haha
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on November 20, 2018
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I’m not sure I get that joke.
Also, is this on track or Flo?
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on November 20, 2018
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Quote from Mark Niemann's post:
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"I’m not sure I get that joke."
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I'm sure I don't get the joke.
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Jeff Streu added to this discussion on November 20, 2018
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Quote from Brady Hiatt's post:
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Quote from Mark Niemann's post:
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"I’m not sure I get that joke."
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I'm sure I don't get the joke."
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I think he was just referring to the odd coincidence that the 20th ranked wrestler in every weight class will be at this tournament.
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Jared Ball added to this discussion on November 24, 2018
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Is flo streaming this? I hope so because Trackwrestling leaves a lot to be desired.
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on November 24, 2018
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Quote from Jared Ball's post:
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"Is flo streaming this? I hope so because Trackwrestling leaves a lot to be desired."
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Looks like Flo will have it. I just read an article about it (good stuff, btw) and there was a “WATCH LIVE†link.
That’s cool.
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on November 25, 2018
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Bucks have wrestled well in Vegas and won several team titles. What's amazing is how often they've done it while missing key starters from the lineup.
This year's tourney, however, looks to be something like the collegiate version of Super 32. There are a lot of deep weights so expect to see quality matchups in the earlier rounds. The Bucks are going to face the deepest field in tourney history (on paper at least).
Are the four M's ready? Are Moore and Martin ready in particular as they've been training freestyle for awhile? How will the rest of the lineup perform? How many guys will place?
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Joe Kinzel added to this discussion on November 28, 2018
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Does anyone know why Smith is going 174 for this and not Campbell?
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Brandon Olinger added to this discussion on November 28, 2018
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Quote from Joe Kinzel's post:
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"Does anyone know why Smith is going 174 for this and not Campbell?"
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This is just my opinion here but we already know what we have in Campbell and I don't think much is going to change with him between now and March. These guys have gone back and forth with Campbell winning the wrestle-offs and Smith getting the win at the open tournament a couple of weeks ago.
It's worth sending Smith to see what he has and can do against top tier competition in a big tournament setting.
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Jack Muni added to this discussion on November 28, 2018
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I'm just glad we get to see him back down at 174.
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Don Bork added to this discussion on November 28, 2018
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Also good team management. Keeping Campbell healthy and fresh while allowing Smith the opportunity gain experience. Also, gives Smith the incentive to stay and not transfer out.
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on November 28, 2018
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Quote from Brandon Olinger's post:
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Quote from Joe Kinzel's post:
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"Does anyone know why Smith is going 174 for this and not Campbell?"
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This is just my opinion here but we already know what we have in Campbell and I don't think much is going to change with him between now and March. These guys have gone back and forth with Campbell winning the wrestle-offs and Smith getting the win at the open tournament a couple of weeks ago.
It's worth sending Smith to see what he has and can do against top tier competition in a big tournament setting."
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I like it. When I heard this said on the podcast it opened my thinking. I like the idea of a set line-up. But what you say here shifts my thinking.
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Discussion Topic: Cliff Keen Las Vegas Classic
Joe Kinzel added to this discussion on November 28, 2018
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I posted this same question on FB and someone suggested Campbell is banged up.
Either way, I think it is good to get Smith some mat time. The separation between the two wrestlers is not significant...if there is even any separation, and getting the young guy some action is a good idea.
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