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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Jim Behrens added to this discussion on March 29, 2019
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"This notion that anyone can put on significant weight easily is ridiculous. It's simply not true."
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I think the word "significant" should be replaced by "useful".
Most of us can put on significant weight without really wanting to do so.
Making that weight useful is a lot more difficult.
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Alex Creech added to this discussion on March 29, 2019
Quote from Jim Behrens's post:
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"
Quote from Alex Creech's post:
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"This notion that anyone can put on significant weight easily is ridiculous. It's simply not true."
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I think the word "significant" should be replaced by "useful".
Most of us can put on significant weight without really wanting to do so.
Making that weight useful is a lot more difficult."
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Good point, that's really what I meant. There are those who are active that just can't put on weight or have reached their max. There are so many variables that factor into one's ability to put on useful\healthy weight and we know NONE of those variables for tOSU wrestlers.
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Jim Behrens added to this discussion on March 29, 2019
Quote from Alex Creech's post:
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"Good point, that's really what I meant. There are those who are active that just can't put on weight or reach their max. There are so many variables that factor into one's ability to put on useful\healthy weight and we know NONE of those variables for tOSU wrestlers."
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Really I figured as much, just being my usual smart a$$ self.
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Joe Kinzel added to this discussion on March 29, 2019
Singletary is not a good example of putting weight on useful or otherwise. He wrestled 220 as a senior in high school. How undersized was he? I do not know.
This year, after redshirting last year, he said in a recent interview that he is walking around 225.
In order to speculate as to what our lineup will look like next year a question needs to be answered; how confident is our staff that we can contend for the team title next year?
If TR really thinks we can contend next season then I would venture to say the best guy at each weight starts regardless as to whether they would benefit from a redshirt or not.
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 29, 2019
TR's slogan is positive infinity. I think he expects to contend for a title. Here's the likely lineup he'll put on the mat:
125: Heinselman
133: Pletcher
141: Kinner
149: Sasso
157: Hayes/Mattox
165: Kharchla
174: E. Smith
184: Hoffman
197: Moore
285: Singletary/Kerkvliet (not sure how this plays out).
That's a very good lineup. Historically speaking, it's one of the best in Buckeye history if they go with it. Guys like Rocky Jordan and Kaleb Romero will be relegated to back up status. The Decaturs, Demilio and several others with upside (Canitano and the big kid that is supposedly walking on from Grandview--Hudson Jump--come to mind). Wrestlers like Schierl, Cleary, Freeman, Koontzes, Lucas, Redlin, Traub, Stickley and Steiner will provide active depth.
It won't win an NCAA title. But it could be top five by end of year.
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Don Bork added to this discussion on March 29, 2019
Pretty much the lineup I expect as well. However I would like to think that Rocky, Kaleb and/or Kevon might push Ethan Smith. Are there any potential quality 125 pounders out there looking to transfer? I had put out the idea that perhaps Jordan Decatur might be able to cut to 125 next year, but at least a couple more knowledgeable folks on this form opined that that was not likely. Anybody else on the roster that might surprise? A question, is Issac Wilcox out of Utah still a buckeye commitment?
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Jared Ball added to this discussion on March 30, 2019
I’m pumping the brakes on the Karchla train for a minute. No doubt he is an immense talent that will be right there when it comes to elite level status for the Bucks. But I think there are a couple scenarios that need to play out first.
Firstly, being a central Ohio guy I’ve been able to watch Carson up close during the last four years like a lot of others on this forum. The last 16 or so months have been as impressive if not more impressive then just about any recruit the Bucks have brought in at that time with the exception of Kirklivet and Jordan Decatur. Two Ohio State titles, an iron man championship, a who’s number one dismantling of a top ranked opponent, and most impressively was his run at Fargo last year as he toyed with multiple elite level guys.
Consider the following: two and half years ago Carson was considered to be the fourth or fifth most accomplished wrestler on his own team behind Conner Brady, Braken Meade, and the two brothers from Graham that transferred in and whose names escape me. You could even through in Rosselli’s son around that time. My point is pretty simple, Karchla has been a late bloomer, and has a small sample size in comparison with some of the others. Plus most of his elite wins are in freestyle not folk. His one elite folk win came over Julian Ramires’s in the iron man finals.
The summer will surely be telling. I do believe that Romero is poised to make a jump (whether that happens at 165 or 174 I don’t know). The depth on this team is impressive. These are starting to become issues with having more bodies then positions..a good issue to have.
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 30, 2019
Jared: I hope you're right about Romero.
Personally, I'd prefer to see Kharchla redshirt but my suspicion is he's already better than anyone else at the weight. He's got a great style for college and is strong as a bull.
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Rick Wasmer added to this discussion on March 31, 2019
Plus most of his elite wins are in freestyle not folk. His one elite folk win came over Julian Ramires’s in the iron man finals.
I remember Kyle Snyder saying all his training is freestyle when asked about the difference.
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on April 1, 2019
Quote from Hank Kornblut's post:
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"TR's slogan is positive infinity. I think he expects to contend for a title. Here's the likely lineup he'll put on the mat:
125: Heinselman
133: Pletcher
141: Kinner
149: Sasso
157: Hayes/Mattox
165: Kharchla
174: E. Smith
184: Hoffman
197: Moore
285: Singletary/Kerkvliet (not sure how this plays out).
That's a very good lineup. Historically speaking, it's one of the best in Buckeye history if they go with it. Guys like Rocky Jordan and Kaleb Romero will be relegated to back up status. The Decaturs, Demilio and several others with upside (Canitano and the big kid that is supposedly walking on from Grandview--Hudson Jump--come to mind). Wrestlers like Schierl, Cleary, Freeman, Koontzes, Lucas, Redlin, Traub, Stickley and Steiner will provide active depth.
It won't win an NCAA title. But it could be top five by end of year."
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I thought I read Kerkvliet hurt his knee again wrestling over seas recently. Anyone else see that?
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Jason L. Jackson added to this discussion on April 2, 2019
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Joe Kinzel added to this discussion on April 2, 2019
Ouch. Hopefully it's not too serious.
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on April 2, 2019
Quote from Joe Kinzel's post:
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"Ouch. Hopefully it's not too serious."
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#singletarymatters
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on April 3, 2019
Quote from Joe Kinzel's post:
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"Ouch. Hopefully it's not too serious."
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Yeah, that didn't look good.
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Discussion Topic: Thoughts on Ohio State in 2019-2020 season
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on April 3, 2019
Ryan said hes ok ...plan is to RS Kerkvliet, not etched in stone though .
only 2 certainties are 197 & Sasso at 149.
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