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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Ethan Moore added to this discussion on November 4, 2019

Anyone confirm his announcement? Very curious.

I felt he was a driver around Flo's success.



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Jared Ball added to this discussion on November 4, 2019

He posted reply’s to forum subjects on both the Iowa and PSU boards. Sounds pretty legit



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Ethan Moore added to this discussion on November 4, 2019

Surprised no comment from the Flo guys, unless I’ve missed something.



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on November 4, 2019

Quote from Ethan Moore's post:

"Surprised no comment from the Flo guys, unless I’ve missed something."



C-Py tweeted that he’ll address this on FRL tomorrow (Tuesday) morning.



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Alex Creech added to this discussion on November 5, 2019

I personally don't like Flo's new logo and branding and just about all the content is now pay to see. Even the FRL audio piece is now pay to listen to.



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Rick Wasmer added to this discussion on November 5, 2019

I do like Flo. I think you get a lot of live wrestling and FRL for the subscription price.
How many live events did they have just this weekend?



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Christopher Henderson added to this discussion on November 5, 2019

Sad to see Willie go, always looked forward to his takes on FRL.
I wonder if the Feds came after him for advocating not paying income taxes.



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Rob Wagner added to this discussion on November 6, 2019

I heard Willie posted a video explaining him leaving the company. Caveat- It is behind a pay wall as well.

I thought that was kind of odd, and I know I won't be spending money to hear about this since I don't care for Flo or any of its employees/recent employees at all. I wonder if that was made as a subtle jab to the company with all the paywall talk thats been circulating as of late?



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Eric Curitore added to this discussion on November 6, 2019

Not only that, the link he tweeted out to his video talking about his move is a broken link - https://rokfin.com/post/4739

I'm not super familiar with the site he's with now, though I do know Martin Floreani is the Founder & CEO of it. The connection there being he was the guy who started Flowrestling. Ben Askren tweets a lot about the site and is listed as one of the creators. I remember seeing Jordan Burroughs put some content out through them too.



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on November 6, 2019

In a group text a few weeks back, we discussed Rofkin. Basically called it Flo 2.0.

Entrepreneurs. Can dig.



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Rob Wagner added to this discussion on November 6, 2019

Thanks for the clarity on Rofkin. Does Marty Floreani still have any connection with Flo? I remember at Ironman several years back he was basically a 1 man army. Curious to know if he just owns a majority stake and cut off all other ties or if he still contributes to the company he created in any way?



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Eric Curitore added to this discussion on November 6, 2019

Have 0 idea how accurate the details are to this article, though everything I remember reading at the time was that he was pushed out of the company for various reasons...

https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/19697



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Rob Wagner added to this discussion on November 6, 2019

Thanks Eric, i'm sure Martin is doing just fine but with all things business-related as soon as a company starts to see some success- Politics usually come into play.



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on November 6, 2019

Quote from Rob Wagner's post:

"Thanks Eric, i'm sure Martin is doing just fine but with all things business-related as soon as a company starts to see some success- Politics usually come into play."



yep as u say "politics" (lol, i know firsthand how that goes) ...often the guy who built it is forced out- example Steve Jobs founded Apple but then was forced out, though later brought back because he was irreplaceable-- its about politics, personalities and maneuvering for power.

as i was told, founder & CEO Floriana has been out 2 years-- when Flo became majority owned by investors he lost control. He is on Board of Directors but im guessing thats token.

i don't know Willie's story but im guessing the Culture changed from the original crew of carefree wrestling guys who did things unconventionally and developed a cult following. ... its corporate now, not a good fit for everyone.



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Discussion Topic: Willy out at Flo - is that real?
Alex Creech added to this discussion on November 6, 2019

Quote from Bob Preusse's post:

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its corporate now, not a good fit for everyone."



yeah, willie definitely does not seem like a corporate kinda guy.



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