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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on February 23, 2024
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If Carson returns and is finally healthy you let him wrestle no matter what. A healthy kharchla can beat anyone. The last season he was healthy he took o toole to the brink and had a controversial call go against him. Welsh has a redshirt to use if he wants, and if he wants to be in the lineup let him go 184. Welsh future is bright but you let Carson wrestle his senior year if he comes back to his peak form.
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"Jason…. Ryder did wrestle 195 his senior year so I think he could eventually go to 197. Carson kharchla looks like he is coming back next year. Rocco can either go 184 or redshirt. Neves hasn’t weighed under 200 pounds for three years. 197 isn’t happening. With Rocco and Ryder both having redshirts they should have plenty of time to put on the weight. If they both did that then maybe Birden could slide in at 174 after Carson graduates."
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At this point I don't think it's a given that Carson beats Rocco in a wrestle off. It will be interesting to see how Rocco does at Big10s and NCAAs."
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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on February 23, 2024
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If Carson returns and is finally healthy you let him wrestle no matter what. A healthy kharchla can beat anyone. The last season he was healthy he took o toole to the brink and had a controversial call go against him. Welsh has a redshirt to use if he wants, and if he wants to be in the lineup let him go 184. Welsh future is bright but you let Carson wrestle his senior year if he comes back to his peak form.
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"Jason…. Ryder did wrestle 195 his senior year so I think he could eventually go to 197. Carson kharchla looks like he is coming back next year. Rocco can either go 184 or redshirt. Neves hasn’t weighed under 200 pounds for three years. 197 isn’t happening. With Rocco and Ryder both having redshirts they should have plenty of time to put on the weight. If they both did that then maybe Birden could slide in at 174 after Carson graduates."
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At this point I don't think it's a given that Carson beats Rocco in a wrestle off. It will be interesting to see how Rocco does at Big10s and NCAAs."
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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on February 23, 2024
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Nick--your assumption is that if Kharchla shows up healthy he'll remain healthy throughout the course of the season.
Bold assumption.
That said--if his minutes were managed, you could use Welsh for five events and have others fill in.
Sasso and Kharchla could both be back next season. Same for Paddy Gallagher.
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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on February 23, 2024
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If Carson returns and is finally healthy you let him wrestle no matter what. A healthy kharchla can beat anyone. The last season he was healthy he took o toole to the brink and had a controversial call go against him. Welsh has a redshirt to use if he wants, and if he wants to be in the lineup let him go 184. Welsh future is bright but you let Carson wrestle his senior year if he comes back to his peak form.
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"Jason…. Ryder did wrestle 195 his senior year so I think he could eventually go to 197. Carson kharchla looks like he is coming back next year. Rocco can either go 184 or redshirt. Neves hasn’t weighed under 200 pounds for three years. 197 isn’t happening. With Rocco and Ryder both having redshirts they should have plenty of time to put on the weight. If they both did that then maybe Birden could slide in at 174 after Carson graduates."
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At this point I don't think it's a given that Carson beats Rocco in a wrestle off. It will be interesting to see how Rocco does at Big10s and NCAAs."
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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on February 23, 2024
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If Carson returns and is finally healthy you let him wrestle no matter what. A healthy kharchla can beat anyone. The last season he was healthy he took o toole to the brink and had a controversial call go against him. Welsh has a redshirt to use if he wants, and if he wants to be in the lineup let him go 184. Welsh future is bright but you let Carson wrestle his senior year if he comes back to his peak form.
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"Jason…. Ryder did wrestle 195 his senior year so I think he could eventually go to 197. Carson kharchla looks like he is coming back next year. Rocco can either go 184 or redshirt. Neves hasn’t weighed under 200 pounds for three years. 197 isn’t happening. With Rocco and Ryder both having redshirts they should have plenty of time to put on the weight. If they both did that then maybe Birden could slide in at 174 after Carson graduates."
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At this point I don't think it's a given that Carson beats Rocco in a wrestle off. It will be interesting to see how Rocco does at Big10s and NCAAs."
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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on February 23, 2024
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If Carson returns and is finally healthy you let him wrestle no matter what. A healthy kharchla can beat anyone. The last season he was healthy he took o toole to the brink and had a controversial call go against him. Welsh has a redshirt to use if he wants, and if he wants to be in the lineup let him go 184. Welsh future is bright but you let Carson wrestle his senior year if he comes back to his peak form.
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"Jason…. Ryder did wrestle 195 his senior year so I think he could eventually go to 197. Carson kharchla looks like he is coming back next year. Rocco can either go 184 or redshirt. Neves hasn’t weighed under 200 pounds for three years. 197 isn’t happening. With Rocco and Ryder both having redshirts they should have plenty of time to put on the weight. If they both did that then maybe Birden could slide in at 174 after Carson graduates."
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At this point I don't think it's a given that Carson beats Rocco in a wrestle off. It will be interesting to see how Rocco does at Big10s and NCAAs."
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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on February 23, 2024
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If Carson returns and is finally healthy you let him wrestle no matter what. A healthy kharchla can beat anyone. The last season he was healthy he took o toole to the brink and had a controversial call go against him. Welsh has a redshirt to use if he wants, and if he wants to be in the lineup let him go 184. Welsh future is bright but you let Carson wrestle his senior year if he comes back to his peak form.
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"Jason…. Ryder did wrestle 195 his senior year so I think he could eventually go to 197. Carson kharchla looks like he is coming back next year. Rocco can either go 184 or redshirt. Neves hasn’t weighed under 200 pounds for three years. 197 isn’t happening. With Rocco and Ryder both having redshirts they should have plenty of time to put on the weight. If they both did that then maybe Birden could slide in at 174 after Carson graduates."
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At this point I don't think it's a given that Carson beats Rocco in a wrestle off. It will be interesting to see how Rocco does at Big10s and NCAAs."
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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Justin Hayes added to this discussion on February 23, 2024
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What happens if Carson returns and is healthy?
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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on February 23, 2024
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Sorry about all the multiples. I can’t delete them after someone comments. I promise I only submit them once. Not sure why my phone continues to post them somehow.
If Carson gets injured again mid season then you do the same as this year. You let Rocco take over. Carson deserves at least one more shot imo. Hopefully this surgery is a long term fix.
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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Matt Schein added to this discussion on February 23, 2024
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in regards to Carson the best ability is availability, and historically that hasn't been the case, but I agree a healthy Carson can be anyone in the country. I personally can't see him coming back, his body has taken a beating over the years.
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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on February 23, 2024
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I could be wrong but I don't think Carson ever had surgery before to fix his knee until now.
I think the assumption is getting surgery should fix the issue and allow him to be healthy.
Time will tell.
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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Jack Muni added to this discussion on February 23, 2024
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Just saw on OSU site Rocco & Ryder get their well deserved black shirts, GO BUCS! Stay healthy boys.
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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Rick Wasmer added to this discussion on February 24, 2024
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"Sorry about all the multiples. I can’t delete them after someone comments. I promise I only submit them once. Not sure why my phone continues to post them somehow.
If Carson gets injured again mid season then you do the same as this year. You let Rocco take over. Carson deserves at least one more shot imo. Hopefully this surgery is a long term fix."
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Does it matter who wins the wrestle off? I know it's only one data point.
Don't get me wrong, we all love Carson but if Rocco has a successful post season, that has to carry some weight into next season.
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Discussion Topic: OSU vs Mich State
Jared Ball added to this discussion on February 25, 2024
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I think I’ve been pretty consistent in stating that I’d be very surprised to see Carson back. In five collegiate and four high school seasons he was healthy for maybe two seasons. His luck and his body just haven’t cooperated. At some point you have to weigh quality of life long term. We all know guys at 40 that walk around like they are 70. He strikes me as a highly intelligent and reflective guy. I’m sure those are things he it’s evaluating.
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