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Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
Smith champ 90,91,92,94 ---yes u probably right, probation. Still i recall a dispute Smith had over something academic, i will get clarification from Ron Good who resides in OKla, Cowboys are his team.
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
Bob, when you think about the level that Burroughs was wrestling at when he graduated, yes, I think easily. The best wrestlers in the world couldn't stop him from getting a takedown.
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
Let's get to work on twitter!!!
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
Quote from Jason L. Jackson's post:
"Bob, when you think about the level that Burroughs was wrestling at when he graduated, yes, I think easily. The best wrestlers in the world couldn't stop him from getting a takedown."
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
Quote from Michael Rodriguez's post:
"I think that was the year Mollica won it..."
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
It depends on how you define "best ever". Dake has a better resume than Burroughs, without question. If that is the definition, then yes, Dake is in the top 5.
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
AWN didnt define "the best ever", each writer surveyed defined it for himself.
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
Cael lost in his RS year to Paul Jenn, an Iowa wrestler that never AA. Hard to tell what his learning curve would have been that true freshman year.
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
I've avoided adding my 2 cents because admittedly my knowledge base is much more restricted than some others on here. I didn't get into the sport until my 7th grade year (1990) and shortly thereafter guys like Rex Holman, Kevin Randleman, Tom and Terry Brands posters were hanging on my wall. So, with my baseline established, I look at the history makers as worthy of top 5 credential. Nobody had won 4 titles in Div I history until Pat Smith made it happen. Nobody had ever gone undefeated in a 4yr Div I wrestling career until Cael did. Nobody ever won 4 NCAA Div I titles in 4 different weight classes until Kyle did. So, to me those guys deserve 3 of the 5 spots. The other 2 I think are Kemp and (in my opinion) Lincoln McIlravy. Both of those 2 were 4x finalists and 3x champs and either could have been 4x ers if not for the narrowest of margins.
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
Quote from Bob Preusse's post:
"Smith champ 90,91,92,94 ---yes u probably right, probation. Still i recall a dispute Smith had over something academic, i will get clarification from Ron Good who resides in OKla, Cowboys are his team."
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
Concerning Burroughs his Sr. year, Caldwell did only lose to him 2-1 in Big 12 finals (got worked worse in NCAA finals) but in a one match situation, if Caldwell could hold him to 1 td, VERY conceivable that Dake would have also. Dake better in every position than Caldwell.
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
let's see Jordan Burroughs won an NCAA Championship and a World Championship his senior year!!!Dake finished 3rd at Olympic trials before his senior year(which is a great accomplishment!)at Burroughs weight class.But if we go by senior seasons,no question Burroughs would beat him not even close!!!The best in the world couldn't stop his takedowns at that point.So how could Dake?If we go by college careers no question Dake has the credentials and body of work advantage.But to say Dake is better than Burroughs all-time in college wouldn't say that.Burroughs senior year he was just a little better than Dake in my opinion.Dake should be congratulated for going after Taylor his senior year(I might of too if I just whipped him in the Olympic trials)but he can't make my top 5 greatest of all time college wrestlers.His a true winner only losing 4 times in his career. Cael has 3 hodge trophies that shows DOMINATES,John Smith winning a National,and Olympic championship his senior year.Low single UNSTOPPABLE!!Dan Gable maybe one of the greatest PINNERS ever!! 31-0 all time at the midlands!!Tom Brands he wasn't the quickest or most technical,but the biggest COMPETITOR ever.He got the most out of his abilities 3 NCAA titles.Lee Kemp 4x finalist losing his true freshman year on a referees split decision.Beating Dan Gable at the age of 18,and from Ohio!! Can't beat that. PRODIGY
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
These are fun debates. Everyone makes good points--except me regarding Bruce Baumgartner (arguably the greatest American wrestler in history depending on ones criteria).
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
Rex,
Discussion Topic: Who are the best college wrestlers ever?
Oklahoma State was put on probation because of alleged recruiting violations by coach Joe Seay.
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