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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Marlo Stanfield added to this discussion on September 4, 2008

http://www.win-magazine.com/Rankings/Brute%20Rankings%20Current%20High%20School.html



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on September 4, 2008

Quote from WIN Rankings's post:

" 135 pounds
1. Collin Palmer Sr. Lakewood, Ohio/St. Edward
2. Dylan Alton Jr. Mill Hall, Pa./Central Mountain
3. David Taylor Sr St. Paris, Ohio/Graham
4. Josh Kindig Jr. Schuylkill Haven, Pa./Blue Mountain
5. Austin Ormsbee So. Blairstown T’ship, N.J./Blair Academy
6. Alex Ekstrom Sr. Palmyra-Macedon, N.Y.
7. Justin DeAngelis Jr. Jenks, Okla.
8. Kyle West Sr. Oak Ridge, Calif.
9. Kyle Bradley Sr. St. Charles, Mo./F. Howell Central
10. C.J. Napier Sr. Columbus, Kan.
11. Paul Liguori Sr. Wantagh, N.Y.
12. Nick Lester Sr. Eureka, Mo.
13. Kodie Silvestri Sr. Hamburg, N.J./Wallkill Valley
14. Nicky Gordon Sr. Kingston, Pa./Wyoming Seminary
15. RaVaughn Perkins Jr. Omaha, Neb./North
16. Josh Dziewa Jr. Holland, Pa./Council Rock South
17. Kaleb Friedley Jr. Kansas City, Mo./Park Hill
18. Tucker Armstrong Jr. St. Paris, Ohio/Graham
19. Colin Shober Jr. Leesport, Pa./Schuylkill Valley
20. Andrew Williams Sr Yorktown, Va./Tabb"


First off, I can't remember a time when two wrestlers from the same team were nationally ranked at the same weight (Armstrong and Taylor). Second, everyone's been talking about a possible Taylor/Stieber match-up at the Ironman this year. If we are to believe these rankings, Taylor, Palmer and Dylan Alton will all face-off at Walsh Jesuit this year. Wow.



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Tom Elmer added to this discussion on September 4, 2008

There is no way Collin Palmer goes 135. Possibly 140 but more likely 145.



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Dan Cosimi added to this discussion on September 4, 2008

2008-2009 WIN Preseason High School National Rankings

Ohio wrestlers

103 pounds
4. Ty Mitch - 11 - Aurora High School - Aurora, Ohio
6. Gus Sako - 11 - St. Edward High School - Lakewood, Ohio
10. Kagan Squire - 9 - Wadsworth High School - Wadsworth, Ohio

112 pounds
4. Jamie Clark - 11 - St. Edward High School - Lakewood, Ohio
5. Hunter Stieber - 10 - Monroeville High School - Monroeville, Ohio

119 pounds
2. Zach Neibert - 12 - Graham High School - St. Paris, Ohio

125 pounds
1. Logan Stieber - 11 - Monroeville High School - Monroeville, Ohio
2. Sam White - 12 - Perry High School - Massillon, Ohio

130 pounds
8. Seth Horner - 12 - Perry High School - Massillon, Ohio

135 pounds
1. Collin Palmer - 12 - St. Edward High School - Lakewood, Ohio
3. David Taylor - 12 - Graham High School - St. Paris, Ohio
18. Tucker Armstrong - 11 - Graham High School - St. Paris, Ohio

140 pounds
19. David Habat - 11 - St. Ignatius High School - Cleveland, Ohio

145 pounds
6. Kyle Lang - 12 - Brecksville High School - Broadview Heights, Ohio
18. Pierce Harger - 11 - Archbishop Moeller High School - Cincinnati, Ohio

152 pounds
7. Zach Toal - 12 - Troy Christian High School - Troy, Ohio

160 pounds
12. Nick Heflin - 12 - Perry High School - Massillon, Ohio

171 pounds
1. Chris Phillips - 10 - Monroeville High School - Monroeville, Ohio

189 pounds
16. Greg Isley - 12 - Southview High School - Sylvania, Ohio
20. Nick Mills - 12 - University School - Hunting Valley, Ohio

215 pounds
1. Orlando Scales - 12 - Elder High School - Cincinnati, Ohio

285 pounds
6. Adam Walls - 12 - Beavercreek High School - Beavercreek, Ohio
8. Jeremy Johnson - 12 - Brecksville High School - Broadview Heights, Ohio
11. James Meder - 12 - Valley Forge High School - Parma Heights, Ohio



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on September 4, 2008

Quote from Michael Rodriguez's post:

"First off, I can't remember a time when two wrestlers from the same team were nationally ranked at the same weight (Armstrong and Taylor)."


Were not Sako and Clark nationally ranked - both top 10, I do believe - just a year or two ago? Impressive nonetheless.



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on September 4, 2008

Right, there's no way Palmer will be at 135, but the top five in WIN's rankings are all in the Ironman, as well as #8 West and #14 Gordon -- sounds like a pretty good tournament.

And even with Palmer at 140 or 145 though, 135 will be super-loaded at the Ironman -- add in perhaps Brad Squire and Seth Horner, too, and Ian Squires, Zac Hancock and Nick Sulzer. Dane Johnson, 2x PA champ, was at 125 last season?

WIN Rankings at 135 pounds
1 . Collin Palmer Sr. Lakewood, Ohio/St. Edward
2. Dylan Alton Jr. Mill Hall, Pa./Central Mountain
3. David Taylor Sr St. Paris, Ohio/Graham
4. Josh Kindig Jr. Schuylkill Haven, Pa./Blue Mountain
5. Austin Ormsbee So. Blairstown T’ship, N.J./Blair Academy

6. Alex Ekstrom Sr. Palmyra-Macedon, N.Y.
7. Justin DeAngelis Jr. Jenks, Okla.
8. Kyle West Sr. Oak Ridge, Calif.
9. Kyle Bradley Sr. St. Charles, Mo./F. Howell Central
10. C.J. Napier Sr. Columbus, Kan.
11. Paul Liguori Sr. Wantagh, N.Y.
12. Nick Lester Sr. Eureka, Mo.
13. Kodie Silvestri Sr. Hamburg, N.J./Wallkill Valley
14. Nicky Gordon Sr. Kingston, Pa./Wyoming Seminary

"There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Trever Davis added to this discussion on September 4, 2008

There's no Cam Tessari in these rankings?



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Anthony Windsor II added to this discussion on September 5, 2008

Is David Taylor really up to 135?



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Scott Nicola added to this discussion on September 6, 2008

Has David Taylor ever been ranked this "low"? I also think Jamie Clark deserves a higher rank. He has had some huge wins in the past two years including a victory over David Taylor and numerous wins over Sam White.



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on September 6, 2008

Taylor? well 135 is a loaded weight and David Taylor is moving up from 112 in less than one year's time, so I can see why he is not #1 like he is used to being -- moving up 4 weight classes to compete with guys who wrestled at or near 135 last season!

Yes, Jamie Clark can be #1 at 119, I think. Actually Ohio has SIX kids with very legit chance to be #1 in their weight class :
... Jamie Clark at 119
... Logan Stieber at 125
... David Taylor at 135
... Collin Palmer at 140 or 145
... Chris Phillips at 171
... Orlando Scales at 215



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Scott Nicola added to this discussion on September 6, 2008

Does Scales project as a 197 or 285 in college?



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Nicholas Sestito added to this discussion on September 8, 2008

Quote from Dan Cosimi's post:

"285 pounds
6. Adam Walls - 12 - Beavercreek High School - Beavercreek, Ohio
8. Jeremy Johnson - 12 - Brecksville High School - Broadview Heights, Ohio
11. James Meder - 12 - Valley Forge High School - Parma Heights, Ohio"



Is this a mistake on WIN's part or did I totally miss Adam Walls transferring to Beavercreek?



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on September 8, 2008

Quote from Nicholas Sestito's post:

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Quote from Dan Cosimi's post:

"285 pounds
6. Adam Walls - 12 - Beavercreek High School - Beavercreek, Ohio
8. Jeremy Johnson - 12 - Brecksville High School - Broadview Heights, Ohio
11. James Meder - 12 - Valley Forge High School - Parma Heights, Ohio"



Is this a mistake on WIN's part or did I totally miss Adam Walls transferring to Beavercreek?"



Yeah, you missed it. Walls is at Beavercreek. And he probably took Graham's chances of back-to-back National titles with him.



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on September 8, 2008

What family moves to Beavercreek? What is there to move to?



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Discussion Topic: WIN Preseason High School Rankings
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on September 8, 2008

Walls always lived in Beavercreek and he was open-enrolling to Graham for the past 3 years.



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