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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on September 30, 2020
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138: Jesse Mendez vs Jordan Williams
145: Kylie Welker vs Skylar Hattendorf
182: Lenny Pinto vs Rylan Rogers
126: Jordan Titus vs Dean Peterson
152: Victor Voinovich vs Jagger Condomitti
285: Kyonte Hamilton vs Chase Horne
220: Kyle Haas vs Nick Feldman
145: Cody Chittum vs Wyatt Henson
195: Seth Shumate vs Tate Picklo
112: Sage Mortimer vs Mia Palumbo
160: Paddy Gallagher vs Travis Mastrogiovanni
138: Joel Vandervere vs Williams/Mendez
120: Richie Figueroa vs Drake Ayala
170: Alex Facundo vs Cael Valencia
Should be some great matches and 2 future buckeyes going.
Bob or anyone have any insight on any recruiting news with Figs, Williams, Mendez, Feldman, Valencia? All of have Bucks in final college choices.
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on October 1, 2020
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#WatchParty
My house
Wrestling starts at 6p; doors open at 5:30p
Snacks provided; BYOB
Feel free to reach out if you want to attend.
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on October 1, 2020
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Quote from Jim Kessen's post:
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"138: Jesse Mendez vs Jordan Williams
145: Kylie Welker vs Skylar Hattendorf
182: Lenny Pinto vs Rylan Rogers
126: Jordan Titus vs Dean Peterson
152: Victor Voinovich vs Jagger Condomitti
285: Kyonte Hamilton vs Chase Horne
220: Kyle Haas vs Nick Feldman
145: Cody Chittum vs Wyatt Henson
195: Seth Shumate vs Tate Picklo
112: Sage Mortimer vs Mia Palumbo
160: Paddy Gallagher vs Travis Mastrogiovanni
138: Joel Vandervere vs Williams/Mendez
120: Richie Figueroa vs Drake Ayala
170: Alex Facundo vs Cael Valencia
Should be some great matches and 2 future buckeyes going.
Bob or anyone have any insight on any recruiting news with Figs, Williams, Mendez, Feldman, Valencia? All of have Bucks in final college choices."
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Figuerora we hope.
Yes more coming we hope 2022 class is the one....
Bouzakis
Mendez
Wick
Rogers
Shumate
Feldman
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Justin Hayes added to this discussion on October 2, 2020
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I’m growing to be a fan of Paddy Gallagher.
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on October 3, 2020
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Quote from Justin Hayes's post:
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"I’m growing to be a fan of Paddy Gallagher."
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Glad to see you coming along.
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Jared Ball added to this discussion on October 4, 2020
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Tate Picklo had some impressive defense for an upper weight. I thought Shumate was the more offensive wrestler throughout the match, but Picklo was a counter and defensive wizard. Any time you have your leg elevated to the ceiling and you can manage to avoid a takedown it’s impressive.
Lots of great high level wrestling, even with the long gaps with no competition. You have to think that some of the injuries sustained during the matches may have been a result of the time off. I don’t recall a precious Who’s number one taking place with that many injuries. Hopefully they are just minor setbacks.
Was anyone else surprised by the Figueroa match? I’m not shocked that he lost, but for the number 1 overall guy to have limited offensive production was a bit surprising.
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Bruce Andrews added to this discussion on October 4, 2020
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I have mixed feelings about the Ayala-Figueroa match. First off, Ayala spent a fair amount of time down on his hands and knees when in the neutral position, which I consider to be somewhat of a stalling maneuver. More importantly, Figueroa complained twice to the referee that Ayala was pulling on his jersey. The third time he complained, when Ayala scored a takedown, the challenge brick was thrown and video review revealed that the grab was intentional, basically implying that the two previous shirt grabs were also part of an illegal technique which Ayala employs, which I consider poor sportsmanship.
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on October 4, 2020
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I’m unsure why I missed those points in the match, Bruce, but I was über impressed with Ayala. Again, my brain is basically Swiss cheese - hard set in some areas with immense gaps throughout.
Overall, it was great to be able to watch some wrestling.
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Rob Wagner added to this discussion on October 5, 2020
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With Figs losing, who would be consider the #1 senior right now? Where does Paddy rank?
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on October 5, 2020
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Quote from Bruce Andrews's post:
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"I have mixed feelings about the Ayala-Figueroa match. First off, Ayala spent a fair amount of time down on his hands and knees when in the neutral position, which I consider to be somewhat of a stalling maneuver. More importantly, Figueroa complained twice to the referee that Ayala was pulling on his jersey. The third time he complained, when Ayala scored a takedown, the challenge brick was thrown and video review revealed that the grab was intentional, basically implying that the two previous shirt grabs were also part of an illegal technique which Ayala employs, which I consider poor sportsmanship."
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Ayala has been studying Tsargush.
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Ethan Moore added to this discussion on October 5, 2020
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I must have watched a different WNO because I saw Ayala take all the risks, create all the offense, react positively when the penalty was assessed (no chance that was intentional in my view, part of the reason we wear singlets and not t-shirts), and won with class.
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Bruce Andrews added to this discussion on October 5, 2020
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Quote from Ethan Moore's post:
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"I must have watched a different WNO ..."
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No, you watched the same WNO as I did, you just saw the match differently, which is fine. I agree that Ayala was the aggressor but I think that was partly due to Figueroa being a bit mystified on how to attack a wrestler who was mostly on his knees.
Tee-shirt versus singlet may have played a role in the technical violation, but the replay showed Ayala's fingers clearly bent in a clasping position. If this had happened once I would chalk it up to chance, but Figueroa had indicated that it happened earlier, so I wonder how accidental it is.
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on October 5, 2020
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[quote="Bruce Andrews"]
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Quote from Ethan Moore's post:
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"I must have watched a different WNO ..."
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No, you watched the same WNO as I did, you just saw the match differently, which is fine. I agree that Ayala was the aggressor but I think that was partly due to Figueroa being a bit mystified on how to attack a wrestler who was mostly on his knees.
You could be right but I would think the #1 P4P HS kid in the country who has probably wrestled a 1000 matches in his career has wrestled someone who was mostly on his knees?
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Jim Behrens added to this discussion on October 5, 2020
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Quote from Ethan Moore's post:
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"I must have watched a different WNO because I saw Ayala take all the risks, create all the offense, react positively when the penalty was assessed (no chance that was intentional in my view, part of the reason we wear singlets and not t-shirts), and won with class."
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I agree with Ethan on this one.
I am slightly puzzled as to why anyone would consider staying down on one's hands and knees would be considered as stalling? My rule book certainly does not say it is a stalling maneuver. In my mind, it is more of a tactic designed to keep your opponent from being able to do what you think he does best.
At least to me, that is being smart.
Over the years I have officiated a fair number of kids who wrestle like this and I never even thought of it as a stall.
Regarding the grasping of clothing, it was so incidental that the officials did not see it and had to go to review to make the call. While it is not a legal move, and certainly should be called, I can't say that it affected the scoring that occurred. IOW, I believe Ayala would have scored the TD regardless. You are making the assumption that because Figueroa complained that it actually happened. That is a big assumption.
Figueroa, by doing it three times, came across as someone who had no answer for the offense coming his way.
BTW, I am a singlet fan for this reason as well.
Just my $.02.
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Discussion Topic: Who number one WNO 10.3 presented by FLO
Jared Ball added to this discussion on October 5, 2020
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Quote from Rob Wagner's post:
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"With Figs losing, who would be consider the #1 senior right now? Where does Paddy rank?"
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Van Ness is ranked #2 pound for pound according to flo’s rankings
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