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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on January 23, 2023
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125 Steen vs Lee
133 RBY vs Teske
141 Bartlett vs Woods
149 Van Ness vs Murin
157 Haines vs Siebrecht
165 Facudo vs Kennedy
174 Starocci vs Brands
184 Brooks vs Assad
197 Dean vs Warner
285. Kerkvliet vs Cassioppi
On paper looks like a good dual but I think PSU dominates Iowa.
Iowa pin
PSU MD
Iowa Dec
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PSU MD
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PSU - 26 - Iowa - 7
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Rex Holman added to this discussion on January 23, 2023
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My big questions that I am looking forward to seeing answered are:
Can Woods continue to turn top ranked guys with his tilt?
Kennedy Vs Facundo, who wins? Likely a round of 12 type match up with the winner becoming an All American.
Is Starocci able to physically manhandle a Brands?
How close can Assad keep it?
Can Dean use a bent leg turk again? It's one of his go to turns and is complimented by the ankle hook ride that is becoming very popular. I've seen multiple wrestlers from different conferences use it.
Can Cassiopi take Kerkvliet down on a shot he initiates?
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on January 23, 2023
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I'll just add that Murin vs Van Ness is also intriguing.
If this were NCAA's, I'd bet on PSU to win all the tight ones. But it's a dual. PSU has not wrestled a lot. Could be interesting.
Warner didn't wrestle against Wisconsin. I don't know if he's hurt. While I'd favor Dean, it's a tight match on paper if he's available.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on January 23, 2023
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Quote from Hank Kornblut's post:
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"I'll just add that Murin vs Van Ness is also intriguing.
If this were NCAA's, I'd bet on PSU to win all the tight ones. But it's a dual. PSU has not wrestled a lot. Could be interesting.
Warner didn't wrestle against Wisconsin. I don't know if he's hurt. While I'd favor Dean, it's a tight match on paper if he's available."
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Rumors Warner has knee injury so maybe not smart to wrestle Dean. I would assume if dual is out of reach Warner doesn’t wrestle.
I’m curious to see if Bartlett is good as his #4 ranking. He hasn’t wrestled anyone ranked in top 15. If that was someone else they wouldn’t be ranked #4.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Rex Holman added to this discussion on January 23, 2023
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It's at BJC, so there is that as well.
Levi Haines has five competitions. He wrestles and no longer considered a redshirt per Flo.
Haines vs Siebrecht is an excellent match up as well.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Roe Fox added to this discussion on January 24, 2023
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It would interesting to see Lee go 33 if they had someone who could beat Steen, a weak link in the lineup. Doubtful due to Lee’s knees but one can hope for that great matchup.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on January 24, 2023
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I've seen a lot of people mention the idea of Lee matching up with RBY. RBY is arguably the best wrestler in the nation right now. He'd smash this version of Lee in my opinion at 133.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Rex Holman added to this discussion on January 24, 2023
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Rex Holman added to this discussion on January 24, 2023
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That time Jeff Prescott went up and wrestled Terry Brands.
U-g-l-y.
I can't think of one time it ever worked for the lighter guy except in practice matches, biddy and heavyweights.
and Snyder is an outlier. Same rules don't apply to him.
I can think of some notable times when the lighter guy went up and lost.
Arsen Fadzaev and Kenny Monday
Alan Fried and Rich Catalano
Nate Carr and Jim Zalesky (from a story I heard)
Ockham's Razor, All things being equal; the difference is horsepower.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on January 25, 2023
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Logan Stieber beat Kendrick maple
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Quote from Rex Holman's post:
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"That time Jeff Prescott went up and wrestled Terry Brands.
U-g-l-y.
I can't think of one time it ever worked for the lighter guy except in practice matches, biddy and heavyweights.
and Snyder is an outlier. Same rules don't apply to him.
I can think of some notable times when the lighter guy went up and lost.
Arsen Fadzaev and Kenny Monday
Alan Fried and Rich Catalano
Nate Carr and Jim Zalesky (from a story I heard)
Ockham's Razor, All things being equal; the difference is horsepower."
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Rex Holman added to this discussion on January 25, 2023
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Good call. I forgot about that one.
If someone is going to break the rule and further cement legend status, Logan Stieber is most worthy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayA54Re43Nw
It doesn't count on their official NCAA record. But it is fair to use that example as a real match up as Logan was giving up significant weight (maybe 8 lbs) and figured out a way to win.
Maple finished 8th that year at 149, 25-7, and maybe not in top form as previous year or giving up some horsepower.
Also, that was a busted bracket at 149. I think Logan could've beaten the guys at that 149.
That being said, I think RBY and Spencer Lee are in top form and RBY wins due to size difference.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on January 25, 2023
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Rivera bumped up to wrestle Micic a few years ago and got beat pretty good.
Rivera beat Lee that year a few times but could over come size difference.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Rex Holman added to this discussion on January 25, 2023
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I'm spending entirely too much time looking up info.
Please give specifics about Rivera and Lee.
Just trying to reconcile what I've seen with the data out there.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on January 25, 2023
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Should clarify I’m taking about Sebastian Rivera vs Spencer Lee
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Discussion Topic: Iowa vs PSU
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on January 26, 2023
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Quote from Rex Holman's post:
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"I can't think of one time it ever worked for the lighter guy except in practice matches, biddy and heavyweights."
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Ben Askren bumped up and beat returning NCAA Runner-up Roger Kish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZIbVzQFJEk
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