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Discussion Topic: Question for Fred Feeney
John Ice added to this discussion on March 26, 2008
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Fred- When does a referee stop a match to call stalling rather than call stalling while the match is still in progress?
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Discussion Topic: Question for Fred Feeney
Fred Feeney added to this discussion on March 26, 2008
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John...by rule....the only time you can stop the match is when the top man is called for it and both are on the mat. "Stop on top".
The match isn't stopped to call the top man in the rear standing position....nor is the match stopped to call either for stalling in the neutral position.
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Discussion Topic: Question for Fred Feeney
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 27, 2008
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Fred: As long as we're firing questions at you...
The stupidest rule in wrestling is the full nelson penalty point. No one puts in a full on purpose and, to the best of my knowledge, there's not a single coach in the country that's secretly teaching it. Why not call potentially dangerous or just warn the wrestler: "Watch the full".
Instead, the second one almost occurs, the official stops the action and awards a penalty point to a guy that did nothing. And often the full nelson occurs because top man is scared to get hit with stalliing and overreacts (esp. if he has a one point lead late in a match and has been warned once).
I really think that a rule change with regards to the full nelson would be more fair to wrestlers. Points should be earned as often as possible. Since no one does a full on purpose, let's call it potentially dangerous and stop awarding points.
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Discussion Topic: Question for Fred Feeney
Fred Feeney added to this discussion on March 27, 2008
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Hank...do you realize that the full nelson from the side is LEGAL in FS/GR and the 3/4 which is legal in folkstyle...is ILLEGAL in FS/GR. Why? A lot more pressure can be exerted by the 3/4 than the full from the side. Will the rule change? Doubtful
What commonly happens in middle school and lower lever stuff is the top kis will run a half and then switch off...the inexperienced ref will stop it for a full when in actuality all the kid was doing was switching off.
Downward pressure is the key, but the rule book says merely touching can be illegal even if there was no pressure.
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Discussion Topic: Question for Fred Feeney
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 27, 2008
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So, let's call it potentially dangerous...like an arm bar that loses the correct angle
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Discussion Topic: Question for Fred Feeney
Fred Feeney added to this discussion on March 27, 2008
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Seems good to me. Send it to the NFHS.
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