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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Rick Wasmer added to this discussion on June 26, 2023
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C.P. on Flo said last Thursday that Cassiopi is taking an Olympic redshirt. How that effects any possible suspension is hard to say.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on August 22, 2023
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Quote from Rick Wasmer's post:
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"C.P. on Flo said last Thursday that Cassiopi is taking an Olympic redshirt. How that effects any possible suspension is hard to say."
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According to Mineo and Iowa boards the following
Wrestling:
Tony Cassioppi--suspended for season?
Nelson Brands--suspended for season?
Abe Assad--suspended for season?
Cobe Siebrecht--suspended for season?
Cullan Schriever
Patrick Kennedy
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on August 22, 2023
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Iowa Gambling suspensions released
Tony Cassioppi
Nelson Brands
Abe Assad
Cobe Siebrecht
>>>All suspended for full season.
Schriever and Kennedy partial suspensions.
All wrestlers have filed appeals
#bookemdano
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Jared Ball added to this discussion on August 23, 2023
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Schools won’t release names due to FERPA laws, but Pat is typically on the forefront of “don’t give a rip” reporting. He always puts out information way ahead of time before it’s vetted sometimes, but…he’s right a lot.
The implications for the program are huge, but the writing was on the wall when they recruited and brought in the transfer portal guys. Right now, IMO, even though these guys are appealing I don’t think these investigative institutions can allow them to skirt the punishment through redshirting. My guess is they eat a year, which means all but Siebricht are done. Tough way to go out. I’m also curious why or how this is just occurring at Iowa/ISU. I’m sure there are other places this happens. Odd that two schools close in proximity are the ones getting hit. Brands being the son of one of the coaches has to sting a little extra.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Brian Mathews added to this discussion on August 23, 2023
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Quote from Jared Ball's post:
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"I’m also curious why or how this is just occurring at Iowa/ISU. I’m sure there are other places this happens. Odd that two schools close in proximity are the ones getting hit."
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Believe it's a state investigation, so it's specific to Iowa. If other states wanted to do the same, I think it's pretty obvious what they'd find.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Ethan Moore added to this discussion on August 23, 2023
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Very weird time in sports with the onslaught of gambling becoming legal across the country and almost every professional league fully embracing it.
The hypocrisy of it all is amusing. For example - the NFL has suspended players for up to 6 games for betting on other sports, meanwhile every NFL game and stadium has some level of sponsorship from one of the major gambling sites.
As long as you're of legal age and not betting on your own sport, I don't see the issue.
Different for college athletes, I suppose.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Jason L. Jackson added to this discussion on August 23, 2023
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The issue is the danger of an athlete becoming addicted, getting in a hole to a bookie or someone dangerous, and being in a position that they have to shave points or throw a game to settle a gambling bet.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on August 23, 2023
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what defines gambling, in this instance, what code did they violate? did it involve other than wrestling?
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Ethan Moore added to this discussion on August 23, 2023
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Jason - it’s much more regulated now that it’s legal and online. Highly unlikely any of these kids go through a bookie.
And you can’t gamble more than you can add to the account.
I understand the danger of betting on your own sport, but I don’t see the issue in betting legally on other sports.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Jason L. Jackson added to this discussion on August 24, 2023
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Let's say a basketball player becomes addicted to gambling, only bets on Australian rules football, runs their account empty and borrows money from someone shady. They keep losing and can't pay the money back. All of a sudden, the person who gave the loan sees that the spread for that athlete's game is 9.5, and they want the other team to cover. Pressure is applied. The other team covers.
Said athlete borrows more money, keeps losing and now is forced to throw a game. It's not likely, but not impossible. The rules are in place for a reason.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on August 24, 2023
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Quote from Jason L. Jackson's post:
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"Let's say a basketball player becomes addicted to gambling, only bets on Australian rules football, runs their account empty and borrows money from someone shady. They keep losing and can't pay the money back. All of a sudden, the person who gave the loan sees that the spread for that athlete's game is 9.5, and they want the other team to cover. Pressure is applied. The other team covers.
Said athlete borrows more money, keeps losing and now is forced to throw a game. It's not likely, but not impossible. The rules are in place for a reason."
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This can be applied then to any situation where an athlete would have to borrow money.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Rex Holman added to this discussion on August 24, 2023
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Art Schlichter is a case study.
Degenerate gambler. An addiction. A hole in the armor. An Achilles tendon.
Gambling is just not good idea unless you are math genius that can calculate numbers and a figure out a glitch in the system.
Gambling and someone on the team with a bookie 'friend' has been around since I was in college.
Everyone is looking for that dopamine rush.
Best just to look at it as it is. The house always wins in the end; unless you are in that Ed Thorpe category.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Mark Cummings added to this discussion on August 24, 2023
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There’s a reason for the large palaces in the middle of the desert. Beating the house doesn’t consistently happen, even for a math genius. It’s best to not even start. Not even a little bit. The lines are set for a reason. Millions and millions of simulations. Just watch the “Bad Beats” segment on the late night Sportscenter.
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on August 24, 2023
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For me, it’s pretty simple. It was a rule they knew it was a rule, and they broke the rule. So to quote Terry Brands, “ you get what you earn.”
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Discussion Topic: Iowa Gossip
Bill Splete added to this discussion on August 24, 2023
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More buyer beware…all buses are free to profit on…why would it be illegal to bet on football if it’s not your sport…but a donor can give u $250k to jump ship…Addiction is a problem that needs treatment. I don’t think any of this applies to the Iowa guys. They are of age and not their sport, they are marketing on campuses. They’re adults not children, don’t bet on your sport…not following unless they bet on thief matches if it’s not their matches, the only conflict is their match? Listen it’s all stupid? But this world is buyer beware…please beware of gambling…
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