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Discussion Topic: NHSCA Senior Nationals
Steve Lester added to this discussion on March 30, 2008
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I also felt this year's senior class was not as strong as next year's will be.
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Discussion Topic: NHSCA Senior Nationals
Nicholas Sestito added to this discussion on March 30, 2008
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Is Senior Nationals now fixed at Virginia Beach for the time being or will it be moving somewhere else soon?
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Discussion Topic: NHSCA Senior Nationals
Josh Lowe added to this discussion on March 30, 2008
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I would say only about 1/3 of the top 30 seniors in Ohio are in the seniors field.
I would say that LESS than half of seniors who are nationally ranked are at this tournament.
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Discussion Topic: NHSCA Senior Nationals
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 30, 2008
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With regard to Ohio's senior class, I'll make a few comments:
1) We didn't have as many "superstars" as usual.
2) Ohio's senior class in almost any given year is likely to be among the top five in the nation. Why? Because we have the third most kids involved in high school wrestling. Only Cali and NY have more.
3) Ohio, PA, Ill, NJ, CA, NY are usually going to have more top talent than any other states. Other states such as Iowa and Michigan often have good classes as well.
The big difference for Ohio at Sr Nationals this year is that so many top level seniors chose not to compete. We used to win because so many of our best guys chose to go. Things have changed. In particular, early signings by wrestlers make this tourney less important than in the past. Here are some seniors that didn't participate: Magrum, Jameson, Witt, Tank, Boyd, Jordan. What do they have in common? All were already committed to a school.
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Discussion Topic: NHSCA Senior Nationals
Dan Ransick added to this discussion on March 30, 2008
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The Class of 2008 may not have been the strongest as in recent years but this class is very deep and has been that way from their freshman year. The top wrestler can be debated in this class as no one wrestler stands out from each other.
Next year the Class of 2009 may not be as deep but there is a lot more star power with Taylor and Palmer being the two best wrestlers in the nation. While this year I don't think Ohio had any of the senior wrestlers in the Top 20.
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Discussion Topic: NHSCA Senior Nationals
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 30, 2008
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Scouting 174 prospects...Vinson (MT), Meredith (CA) and Elliott (KS) are all guys that showed some talent in this event. Vinson gave Collins a tough bout as did Elliott against Roddy. Meredith ended up placing.
CMU recruits Eric Cubberly and Ben Bennett look very good. Does any coach do a better job than Borelli at identifying early some overlooked prospects and reeling them in?
Buckeye recruits Kusar and Hiles finished 7th and 6th.
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Discussion Topic: NHSCA Senior Nationals
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 30, 2008
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Anyone know what happened to Justin Toth? I know he was registered. I thought he could do well at 103.
Ohio only had 1 placer between 103 and 140 lbs--Skonieczny.
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Discussion Topic: NHSCA Senior Nationals
Josh Lowe added to this discussion on March 30, 2008
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From the rankings I had for the senior class heading into this season - say what you may about my opinions - only ten of those in the top 30 competed at the NHSCA Senior Nationals.
Of those seniors that appeared in this year's state finals - 15 were at NHSCA Seniors, 32 were not.
For the sake of argument, let's look at the AWN national rankings (you can argue who is and isn't in - but trends still are present) and see how many of those ranked kids wrestled at seniors.
103- 2 in, 2 out
112- 1 in
119- 2 in, 1 out
125- 2 in, 4 out
130- 3 in, 3 out
135- 5 in, 3 out
140- 1 in, 2 out
145- 4 in, 5 out
152- 3 in, 9 out
160- 4 in, 5 out
171- 6 in, 4 out
189- 4 in, 7 out
215- 5 in, 6 out
285- 3 in, 7 out
The numbers yield some obvious conclusions:
(1) Seniors is down as an event
(2) It's hard to tell if this is a bad senior class for Ohio or not. I think this is a pretty deep senior group overall. Seems to be deeper than next year's.
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Discussion Topic: NHSCA Senior Nationals
Dan Cosimi added to this discussion on March 30, 2008
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Top-Ranked Ohioans by Division
(Unless I forgot someone...)
Seniors
103: Justin Toth - Painesville Riverside - D1 5th
112: Steve Mitcheff - Elyria - D1 3rd
119: Johnny Papesh - Aurora - D2 3rd
125: Tommy Pretty - Cincinnati Elder - D1 Champion
130: Daniel Kolodzik - Dayton Miami Valley - D3 2nd
135: Chase Skonieczny - Cuyahoga Falls Walsh Jesuit - D2 Champion
140: Richie Spicel - Brunswick - D1 Champion
145: Ben Jordan - St. Paris Graham - D2 Champion
152: Jedd Moore - Marion Pleasant - D3 Champion
160: Eric Cubberly - Pemberville Eastwood - D2 Champion
171: Brian Roddy - Lakewood St. Edward - D1 Champion
189: Cody Magrum - Oak Harbor - D2 Champion
215: Travis Porter - Burton Berkshire - D3 Champion
285: Don Stocum - Kirtland - D3 Champion
Juniors
103: Spencer Pierce - Richwood North Union - D3 2nd
112: David Taylor - St. Paris Graham - D2 Champion
119: Zach Neibert - St. Paris Graham - D2 Champion
125: Jake Vaughan - Columbus St. Francis DeSales - D2 SQ
130: Seth Horner - Massillon Perry - D1 Champion
135: Collin Palmer - Lakewood St. Edward - D1 Champion
140: Kyle Lang - Brecksville - D1 2nd
145: Zach Toal - Troy Christian - D3 Champion
152: Nick Heflin - Massillon Perry - D1 2nd
160: James Mannier - St. Paris Graham - D2 3rd
171: Nick Mills - Hunting Valley University - D2 3rd
189: Greg Isley - Sylvania Southview - D1 2nd
215: Orlando Scales - Cincinnati Elder - D1 Champion
285: Adam Walls - St. Paris Graham - D2 Runner-up
Sophomores
103: Ty Mitch - Aurora - D2 Champion
112: Jamie Clark - Lakewood St. Edward - D1 Champion
119: Logan Stieber - Monroeville - D3 Champion
125: Tucker Armstrong - St. Paris Graham - D2 Champion
130: Brad Squire - Wadsworth - D1 2nd
135: Brad Wukie - Hunting Valley University - D2 6th
140: David Habat - Cleveland St. Ignatius - D1 3rd
145: Josh Demas - Westerville North - D1 3rd
152: Dennis Raber - Orrville - D2 SQ
160: Riley Kilroy - Parma Padua Franciscan - D2 6th
171: Dillon Magalski - Cuyahoga Falls Walsh Jesuit - D2 SQ
189: Max Thomusseit - St. Paris Graham - D2 3rd
215: Nate Weeks - Marysville - D1 7th
285: Ben Buzzelli - Wadsworth - D1 4th
Freshmen
103: Hunter Stieber - Monroeville - D3 Champion
112: Cam Tessari - Monroeville - D3 Champion
119: Johnny Carpenter - Cincinnati Madeira - D3 3rd
125: Danny Orrill - Bedford St. Peter Chanel - D3 SQ
130: Andrew DeHart - Covington - D3 6th
135: Mark Meyer - St. Paris Graham - D2 7th
140: Matt Stephens - St. Paris Graham - D2 4th
145: None qualified for state
152: Cody Walters - Bedford St. Peter Chanel - D3 7th
160: Alex Utley - Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy - D3 3rd
171: Chris Phillips - Monroeville - D3 Champion
189: Travis McIntosh - Washington Court House Miami Trace - D2 SQ
215: Logan Erb - Wapakoneta - D2 4th
285: None qualified for state
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