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Discussion Topic: John Smith retires at Okie State
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on May 3, 2024

Quote from Ethan Moore's post:

"I'm shocked by this.

Is Taylor more credentialed as a COACH than Scott? No.

Scott absolutely up-leveled UNC.

If this happens I would see it as a massive slap in the face."



True but it's possible Scott returned to Okie State without an agreement in place. We're just engaging in conjecture at the moment.

That said, I assumed an agreement was in place. Possibly I was wrong. Shocking!



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Discussion Topic: John Smith retires at Okie State
Ethan Moore added to this discussion on May 3, 2024

Hank - I agree and we don’t know his motives or arrangements about the move home.

I assumed it was a succession plan since he gave up a high level HC position.

Could have been family or loyalty or many other factors.



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Discussion Topic: John Smith retires at Okie State
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on May 3, 2024

Okie State AD flew to PA today to meet with D.T..

Be curious if D.T. does get the gig would any former M2 guys would follow him.



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Discussion Topic: John Smith retires at Okie State
Jared Ball added to this discussion on May 4, 2024

I’m sure the Cowboy family wants one of their own, but does anyone truly believe that Coleman Scott is the guy to overtake PSU and Iowa? He’s a good coach, but I can think of half a dozen coaches I would take over him that Okie State wouldn’t even consider.
They need a complete shift in philosophy and approach. Collegiate programs are rather incestuous and love to hire “one of their own”. There’s a lot higher success rates of organizations, companies, etc that go outside of the old boys network to find successors. I think it’s a good idea



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Discussion Topic: John Smith retires at Okie State
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on May 4, 2024

I’ve been waiting for this for a while now.

I totally agree that Taylor doesn’t have the coaching credentials of Colman Scott, but each of the modern day coaching “greats” didn’t either. Point in case, when Smith took over, he was in his 20s and had just finished competing. He was young and unproven and current…and he ended up being the perfect hire. Could it be the wrong move and blow up in their faces? Absolutely. But sometimes you’ve got to take the big risk to get the big reward.

Colman Scott definitely “leveled up” UNC, that’s a great way to put it. He improved them, but he didn’t transform them. He’s a very good coach, but he’s not the next legendary coach. I don’t know that Taylor is either, but he’s certainly got the potential to be. They’re not shooting for a Par on this hole, they’re going for an Eagle.

Am I wrong on this?

Also, is there any chance that Colman Scott could stay on and be the Casey Cunningham to Taylor’s Cael Sanderson?



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Discussion Topic: John Smith retires at Okie State
Casey Talbott added to this discussion on May 4, 2024

^^^ Good take, IMO.
I’m guessing most top tier programs would rather see Scott hired, than Taylor (?).
Sense is that Taylor would shake things up a bit, and attract high-level talent.
And re Scott then staying on, assuming he’s amenable to this, that could be a win-win.
Because as talented of a wrestler as Taylor was/is, he would probably benefit from having ready-access to a mentor who could help him run a D1 program, and all that comes with that.



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Discussion Topic: John Smith retires at Okie State
Ben Golden added to this discussion on May 6, 2024

Zero chance Coleman Scott would be amenable to being Taylor's backup, methinks.



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Discussion Topic: John Smith retires at Okie State
Ethan Moore added to this discussion on May 6, 2024

All valid points made in this thread, and I understand swinging for the fences if you're OK State administration. I admire their commitment to wrestling.

Just a very odd scenario. In the modern world of recruiting, not having a coach for a month seems like a miss.



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Discussion Topic: John Smith retires at Okie State
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on May 6, 2024

Coleman is meeting with AD today.

Pyles said Taylor declined the offer.

Mineo says he hasn't accepted or declined the offer.



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Discussion Topic: John Smith retires at Okie State
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on May 6, 2024

Sounds like it’s official David Taylor next Okie State coach



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Discussion Topic: John Smith retires at Okie State
Ben Golden added to this discussion on May 6, 2024

This seems to be the buzz but have you seen anything indicating that it's "official?"



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Discussion Topic: John Smith retires at Okie State
Ben Golden added to this discussion on May 6, 2024

Here it is, hot off the press: https://twitter.com/CowboyWrestling/status/1787672501889450376



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