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Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
Guys I’m kinda over moral victories. I recognized that Ohio State performed better than expected against a hammer squad, but this is Ohio State. As the football team demonstrated we have the resources, facilities, and coaches to be perennially in the discussion for a team title. Wrestling to close losses doesn’t earn anything. When it mattered PSU won every single time. I watch what Iowa, OSU, Okie State and others are doing, and I don’t see the Bucks keeping pace. This match was absolutely winnable if OSU executes. Home mat advantage, an injured or incomplete PSU squad, and very even match ups. PSU has won 9 straight. I watched PSU roll out four freshman or redshirts tonight and all of them are killers. All will likely win titles either this year or in the coming years. We have one guy like that. I’m not sure that this is good for OSU wrestling or better yet the sport. Very frustrating
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
tOSU wrestling resources vs PSU, OkSt, Iowa resources isn't on the same level.
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
I don’t know anything about what kind of financial resources Ohio State has versus Penn State, Iowa or OSU. If you say it’s apples to oranges, then I believe you. So, the question then becomes, how do you make tOSU’s oranges into apples?
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
Mike: You're not wrong. Tom Ryan has done an outstanding job. Cael has been one of the all time greats. That's the difference.
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
Quote from Michael Rodriguez's post:
"I don’t know anything about what kind of financial resources Ohio State has versus Penn State, Iowa or OSU. If you say it’s apples to oranges, then I believe you. So, the question then becomes, how do you make tOSU’s oranges into apples? "
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
Yes it is apples to oranges. Ohio state does not have billionaires privately funding the wrestling team. Or people with hundreds of millions. If we can get Les Wexner to be a wrestling fan we would have a shot. Oklahoma state, Iowa, and Penn state all have those kind of boosters to wrestling. The athletic department are not paying money to wrestlers. They are trying to change the way Nil is given out and wrestlers won’t be able to make anywhere near that money anymore if so.
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
Bucks need this guy:
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
As a passionate outsider and objectively speaking,
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
Definitely don’t want to diminish what TR has accomplished. I sat in those metal bleachers in the French field house when 20 people use to show up to duals. To see 5,000 fans losing their minds over the McCrone pin puts that in perspective. 15 years ago Columbus was the epicenter of the regional training center movement. The impact on the program was immediate and heavily correlated to the senior level success of guys training here. I’m not sure we have an RTC to speak of that does not directly involve collegiate athletes. Yet the last two years the program has paid salaries out to guys like Rosselli and Coleman Scott. Lord knows the resources aren’t going to NIL athletes. There will be some legitimate gaping holes in this line up next year. Will the staff finally lure someone away to Columbus? My fear is that OSU has slid backward to a program (since Kyle Snyder’s departure) that will perennially be in the discussion as to who is vying for the fourth place trophy, and even that might be a stretch year in and year out. We’re not Nebraska, or are we?
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
Jared I don’t see the lineup as any gaping holes really next year? They are right now better on paper than anyone else other than Penn state.
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
Nick, what makes you think Facundo won’t cost much? He’s a former star recruit with strong freestyle credentials. He’ll be highly coveted in the portal.
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
Because he is 0-2 at nationals and hasn’t been in a starting lineup in two years. Look at Barraclough. No one is paying big money unless they are proven.
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
Top ten, or near top ten doesn’t get you a trophy at nationals. If you do that same lineup rundown with the big three they have number 1’s and 2’s next to their names. That’s a really solid lineup for sure. But you need finalist to push for the top two placements. Mendes and Welsh have been there. Feldman will be the next likely to push into a top five position, and perhaps Davino. 125, 149, 157, 165, 174, and 197 are replete with good but not great (AA) level guys. Most who will have been in the room three or four years and with no incoming recruits of any immediate impact. Kharchla is likely done. I’d be shocked if Hepner stuck around. Even if he did he hasn’t produced much. None the guys at 197 are likely to AA next year, and I don’t think Birden is quite ready to be an impact guy. I say all this knowing that the staff has produced year in and year out. Guys can get better. The recruiting piece is the part that throws me. To consistently miss on top tier guys in the last two classes is concerning.
Discussion Topic: OSU v PSU
Second place last year was 72.5 points at ncaas. I see Feldman, Mendez, and welsh as finalist. That alone is at least 60 points. Carson may want to win a NCAA championship who knows. Next year otoole and hamiti leave. He can also be a finalist if he returns. If Carson comes back And stays healthy no one is close to Ohio state for second.
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