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Discussion Topic: Ohio State v. Virginia Tech - November 19th
Jared Ball added to this discussion on November 24, 2021

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Quote from Matt Schein's post:

"Smith wrestled tough, Lewis is so freaking good, I’d love to see them wrestle again. I have really been impressed with smith over the last few years."



Agreed!

For all of the “OHST isn’t developing it’s guys” this seems to be a counter to that argument. Personally, I’d throw Malik, Romero, and Hoffman in that lot. Perhaps Mr. Wonderful, but I really don’t have a frame of reference from his UVU days."



Is this more of a view that they aren’t developing guys like PSU? Every program develops guys, but in comparison to Cael it’s not in the same realm. Without PSU Ohio State has at least two or three more team national titles, if not more.



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Discussion Topic: Ohio State v. Virginia Tech - November 19th
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on November 24, 2021

Jared--you make a good point. Cael is on a small list of the greatest coaches in collegiate history. The only other name on this list since 1970 is Gable. Everyone else falters by comparison.



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Discussion Topic: Ohio State v. Virginia Tech - November 19th
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on November 24, 2021

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Quote from Mark Niemann's post:

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For all of the “OHST isn’t developing it’s guys” this seems to be a counter to that argument. Personally, I’d throw Malik, Romero, and Hoffman in that lot. Perhaps Mr. Wonderful, but I really don’t have a frame of reference from his UVU days."



Is this more of a view that they aren’t developing guys like PSU? Every program develops guys, but in comparison to Cael it’s not in the same realm. Without PSU Ohio State has at least two or three more team national titles, if not more."



I have not read (red) the "not developing" statements as in comparison to Cael. I have always read (red) them as comparative to who the wrestler was two or three years previously.

Perhaps that statement is made in comparison to other coaches' and wrestlers' abilities - but I did not read (reed) them that way.



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Discussion Topic: Ohio State v. Virginia Tech - November 19th
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on November 24, 2021

Mark: I'm speaking in generalities. I wasn't addressing any specific comment.



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Discussion Topic: Ohio State v. Virginia Tech - November 19th
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on November 25, 2021

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"Mark: I'm speaking in generalities. I wasn't addressing any specific comment."



Aaaah, gotcha.

Allow me to speak in specifics - black licorice is nasty. But I will GLADLY buy some and deliver it to you the next time I stop in for brisket.



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Discussion Topic: Ohio State v. Virginia Tech - November 19th
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on November 25, 2021

Quote from Mark Niemann's post:

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Quote from Hank Kornblut's post:

"Mark: I'm speaking in generalities. I wasn't addressing any specific comment."



Aaaah, gotcha.

Allow me to speak in specifics - black licorice is nasty. But I will GLADLY buy some and deliver it to you the next time I stop in for brisket."



Nothing but love in my heart for you this Thanksgiving.



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