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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on February 28, 2025
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No not sure about McNeil but someone on another board said it may be likely. If there were one year Ohio state needs to go to portal it’s this offseason. If Mendez goes up then we won’t have to worry about that as Bouzakis can slide into 141. Jesse maintains that he feels comfortable at 141 however and he will be a much bigger favorite at 141 then at 149. He would be hurting himself going up as he would have Henson, and van ness there still.
If Jesse decides to stay at 141 then 149 is a must in the portal. Facundo will almost certainly be in the portal but may go home to Michigan or a familiar face in David Taylor since Hamitit will be done.
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on February 28, 2025
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"…Tom wasted so much time focusing on the very elite the last two years that he has missed out on the other guys. Now 2026 is down to Munaretto, mocco, Rainey twins, and Waters. Need two of these 5 to be happy with this class."
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Weren’t you the guy championing the full court press on Bartlett? You assured everybody that Ohio State had chosen right focusing on him and let everyone know he was DEFINITELY coming to tOSU. It was going to be a sport-altering phenomenon that changed the entire landscape of college wrestling. Now you turn around and say Coach Ryan’s strategy was flawed because the kid chose a different school? Not a good look.
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Jeff Mowrer added to this discussion on February 28, 2025
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If Jesse decides to stay at 141 then 149 is a must in the portal. Facundo will almost certainly be in the portal but may go home to Michigan or a familiar face in David Taylor since Hamitit will be done."
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If Facundo hits the portal it's not so he can wrestle 149.
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on February 28, 2025
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If Jesse decides to stay at 141 then 149 is a must in the portal. Facundo will almost certainly be in the portal but may go home to Michigan or a familiar face in David Taylor since Hamitit will be done."
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If Facundo hits the portal it's not so he can wrestle 149."
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I think he along with everyone else knows that. If Facundo hits the portal it will be for 65/74. He made 157 once to wrestle off Kasak and hasn't wrestled it since.
UM has the Mantanona brothers at 65/74 so maybe it won't be UM for Facundo.
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on February 28, 2025
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Bartlett no I’m not even sure if we were in the running for him honestly. Bassett you mean? I never said he was for sure coming but I did consider us to be the favorites / co favorites for many reason. I am not saying he shouldn’t have done that because he should go for the top guys. Blaze and Bassett they definitely went all in on. Basset is all business and Iowa gave 5 million and Iowa he will make much more money and marketable than at Ohio state. The fans are crazy there and he lioves the attention and the social media presence and fans that Iowa has. His brother Melvin Miller the next number one kid will follow. Tom should not waste his time on Melvin. Blaze I don’t think was about money just the winning culture. Even Blaze said it was hard telling Ohio state no after he trained there.
What I’m talking about is the secondary in state recruits that he isn’t even paying attention to that I’m disappointed. Jaxon joy, brogan tucker, Eddie neitenbach, Mitchell younger. Ohio guys who could developed into great college wrestlers. We just haven’t been picking up any guys. These last couple classes. We need numbers and let them battle it out.
Facundo would have to chop off his leg to make 149. McNeil could be 149. Facundo more likely 157-174. He would be good wherever we needed him.
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"…Tom wasted so much time focusing on the very elite the last two years that he has missed out on the other guys. Now 2026 is down to Munaretto, mocco, Rainey twins, and Waters. Need two of these 5 to be happy with this class."
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Weren’t you the guy championing the full court press on Bartlett? You assured everybody that Ohio State had chosen right focusing on him and let everyone know he was DEFINITELY coming to tOSU. It was going to be a sport-altering phenomenon that changed the entire landscape of college wrestling. Now you turn around and say Coach Ryan’s strategy was flawed because the kid chose a different school? Not a good look."
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on February 28, 2025
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Nick…I understand what you’re saying about second tier guys and in state talent, but go back a read your posts. You had no issue with the full court press on Bassett. And you laid out, in detail, all the reasons he was coming to Columbus and how that was going to change everything. tOSU wouldn’t need the second tier guys if they had the new Bassett social media recruiting pipeline that was coming.
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on March 3, 2025
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I was way off on my assessment of Ohio states nil. They simply just don’t have the boosters that can support paying the super elites. They have not landed a top recruit since the new age of Nil. Virginia tech offered Bassett 2.5 million and have landed three top 10 recruits in 25 and 26. We are behind Michigan, Iowa, Penn state, Oklahoma state and virginal tech at least it looks like. If everything was equal Tom Ryan is as good at anyone at recruiting.
Potential prospects juniors
Raney brothers- no chance. Every major college coach was in Kentucky last weekend for him alone. Bidding war will ensue. Waste of time.
Munaretto- looks like four schools. Ohio state Illinois Indiana and Arizona state. I like our chances.
Waters- down to 7. Oklahoma state Virginia tech and Michigan are competing here
Sophomore- Walker and Burnett
Freshman Webber, rowlands( nearly beat defending state champ last weekend) borgers ( started at Blair that is from Dublin)
Junior high national rankings.
75- #2 Jaxon Holtz Copley
75 -#7 Chase Miller-Smith Akron
90- #1 Cohen Reer Milan
90- #10 Rylan Wax Zane Trace
100- #10 Nolan Deshon Uniontown
112- #1 Bradley Bauman Ed’s
120- #8 Greyson Debevoise Hebron
128- #12 Cannon Driscoll Aurora
136- #3 Lincoln James Sandusky
136- #9 Kam Bedel Cincinnati
157- #4 Brendan Davies St. Edward
157- #5 Phoenix Hunter Galion
Then there are two more rowland boys, another kharchla and a heskett that all hopefully get to be as good as their dads.
There is some talent coming up it looks like but if Ohio state wants to compete nationally they need to keep the best kids in Ohio. When Ohio state won its national championship it was basically all Ohio kids and Snyder.
The 24,25,26 Ohio state has only got one Ohio kid ranked in top 100 committed . That can’t be happening anymore. We didn’t go hard after Joey blaze and it cost us his brother. Brogan Tucker is ranked higher than Shaw and bouzakis who we went after. Why didn’t we land him? He is from Bo’s high school and trained by the Jordan’s. Mitchell younger is from Columbus and sat by him at many duals at Ohio state. That should have been an easy one. Fishback was one of the top recruits in the nation. Karson brown to Pitt. Eddie Neitenbach is a top 20 true freshman that Ohio state didn’t go after. The miller brother from Ed’s are going to Iowa where they will have no chance to start. Ohio needs to
Emphasize in state kids more imo.
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on March 3, 2025
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I think the Buckeyes have a shot at Raney brothers.
Geographically we are the closet, not by much but are closer.
They are both really good at Greco and the ORTC is pretty good at Greco.
Bucks have good partners with Vinny, McCrone, Davino, Nic, Mendez. Can say the same about PSU and Okie State.
Bucks will have openings at their potential weights, 41-49.
PSU and Okie State have a log jam of current guys or recruits coming in around their weights.
ASU seems to be following off and Sunkist is gone.
Iowa can probably throw the most money at them but have Bo at one of their potential weights.
Supposedly they have been training at Illinois for a while now so they already have a relationship.
Ultimatley who knows they will end up where they think is best for them.
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on March 3, 2025
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The logjams don’t seem to be causing any problems for Penn state. Next years team is going to have a lot of really good kids sitting the Bench. The backups would give Ohio state a good dual. People are still committing.
125 Nathan Desmond- top 30 recruit
133 loser of Nagao/ Davis so a top 10 guy wil be on bench
141dalton Perry top 40 recruit.
157- sealey top 5 recruit
165- Facundo top 2 recruit
165 Cunningham top 20 recruit
165 P.J. duke top 2 recruit
197 mirasola top 10 recruit.
Bassett will be probably a 149/ 157. The raneys can squeeze in somewhere and make it work. The raneys may end up being the best wrestlers in this class. Raney and Forrest are 1-2 career and both Raneys losses were overtime agains him . Raney gets in a better room with about 10 d1 commits like Forrest has then he may be able to pass him as I feel they are about dead even now.
Again I would like our chances if nil wasn’t a part of it but Oklahoma state Iowa and Penn state are involved and that’s bad news for the buckeyes. It’s a three team race for all the biggest recruits and they all have landed there. I do hope you are right because that would be a huge get. The other three schools are Illinois, Nebraska, and Arizona state. So it looks like it down to 7. Have the Raneys even visited Columbus?
My guess is the money is being split up between mendes, welsh, feldman and possibly davino and need someone to graduate to get substantial money to come off the books in order to land another big name.
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Drew Taylor added to this discussion on March 3, 2025
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The Bucks might be sitting on more money than we realize. After all, despite their best efforts in recruiting HS prospects and college transfers, they haven’t spent much lately.
They made a big offer to Blaze and presumably to Forrest and Bo. That money didn’t disappear.
I’m not predicting OSU lands the Raney brothers but I wouldn’t rule it out. Other big programs are spending a lot and might not have much left to give. This could be a great opportunity for the program to strike at an opportune time.
Bucks need to also grab Waters or Mocco. Both of them look like NCAA champs.
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on March 3, 2025
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By looking at instagram it looks like it’s a four team race for mocco. Iowa, Oklahoma state, Ohio state and nc state. I can’t believe Penn state isn’t in on him. Heavyweight is probably their weakest weight going forward.
Oklahoma state isn’t getting him as they already got Ross who is a stud.
Iowa he would need to compete with Kueter for a couple years so may scare him off. Iowa boards feel confident about him however.
I’m guessing it’s between Iowa and Ohio state. He fits perfectly in to our lineup after Feldman leaves.
Waters, Munaretto, and mocco I believe are in play. The guys Ohio state went after are always the latest to commit for some reason. Just like blaze last year. Hopefully they get some good news soon
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Jim Kessen added to this discussion on March 3, 2025
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Mocco was supposedly at the Iowa vs. Okie State dual and was getting the red carpet treatment.
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Jack Muni added to this discussion on March 3, 2025
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"Mocco was supposedly at the Iowa vs. Okie State dual and was getting the red carpet treatment."
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Does anyone know why his dad Steve left Iowa and went to Okla St. to finish his career?
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on March 3, 2025
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There were two reasons mocco left. One he was closest to Brands who left to become head coach at Virginia tech. That is not good for Ohio state that Brands is now the coach at Iowa as he is very close with Brands.
He also wanted the best freestyle coaching which John Smith was at that time.
I would say Iowa is the huge favorite if Mocco didn’t have to sit the bench one year. That is probably the only advantage Ohio state has over Iowa.
If I had to guess on percent of chance I would handicap it this way
Mocco- 40 percent
Waters - 50 percent
Munaretto -70 percent. Fills in for mccrone perfectly when leaving. Davino will help out here and no other major school in play.
Raney- 10 percent. Iowa was the first to call them and he seems most intrigued with Iowa/ Illinois I feel Iowa is the heavy favorite.
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Discussion Topic: 2025 Recruting class-OSU
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on March 3, 2025
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First off, Davino is a “top recruit” and tOSU got him in last year’s class. So, that’s certainly in the nil era. Secondly, Coach Ryan is a great coach and a good recruiter, but all things were equal and Penn State has been out-recruiting him (and everyone else) for years.
The nil excuse doesn’t hold water. First, it’s complete, 100% speculation as to why a particular kid chose a particular university and not another one. When Ohio State loses a guy it’s always nil. When Ohio State gets a guy it great recruiting and building relationships. The truth is, you have no idea who’s going where and why. You send out opinions as if they’re facts. Ohio State slept on Joey Blaze and that cost them Marcus? Then why isn’t Marcus at Purdue?
Also, if nil is the problem (and I’m not saying it is, because I don’t know) then it’s Coach Ryan and his athletic department’s job to improve the nil situation at tOSU. Thats part of recruiting now. Why can other program change with the times and not tOSU?
And finally, if your new plan is to find diamonds in the rough because you can’t land blue chippers anymore (again, I do t believe this to be factual…Davino is exhibit one), then just stop trying to compete for national titles. Because you’ll never win one again without blue chip, national level guys. When Ohio State won its national title it was a bunch of Ohio guys and Snyder, but those “Ohio guys” were also National level, blue chip recruits, who just so happened to be from the Buckeye State.
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