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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Marlo Stanfield added to this discussion on June 11, 2008
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From Revwrestling:
Congrats to these young men!
First Team
103 - Mark Rappo, Sr, Council Rock South HS, Holland, PA
112 - David Taylor*, Jr, Graham HS, St. Paris, OH
119 - Logan Stieber, So, Monroeville HS, Monroeville, OH
125 - Nate Moore, Sr, Iowa City West HS, Iowa City, IA
130 - Eric Grajales, Jr, Brandon HS, Brandon, FL
135 - Collin Palmer, Jr, St. Edward HS, Lakewood, OH
140 - Jason Chamberlain, Sr, Springville HS , Springville, UT
145 - Michael Mangrum, Sr, Riverside HS, Auburn, WA
152 - Alex Meade*, Sr, Caesar Rodney HS, Camden Wyoming, DE
160 - Jason Welch*, Sr, Las Lomas HS, Walnut Creek, CA
171 - Quentin Wright, Sr, Bald Eagle Area HS, Wingate, PA
189 - Ryland Geiger, Sr, Scappoose HS, Scappoose, OR
215 - Marcel Dubose, Sr, Oak Park HS, Oak Park, MI
285 - Eric Thompson, Sr, Waverly-Shell Rock HS, Waverly, IA
Second Team
103 - Hunter Stieber, Fr, Monroeville HS, Monroeville, OH
112 - Joey Langel, Sr, Howell HS, Farmingdale, NJ
119 - Jon Morrison, Jr, Carl Sandburg HS, Orland Park, IL
125 - Chris Villalonga, So, Blair Academy, Blairstown, NJ
130 - Jordan Oliver, Sr, Easton HS, Easton, PA
135 - Dylan Alton, So, Central Mountain HS, Mill Hall, PA
140 - Marshall Peppelman, So, Central Dauphin HS, Harrisburg, PA
145 - Mario Mason, Sr, Blair Academy, Blairstown, NJ
152 - Jake Deitchler, Sr, Anoka HS, Anoka, MN
160 - Scott Winston, Sr, Jackson Memorial HS, Jackson, NJ
171 - Grant Gambrall, Sr, Iowa City West HS, Iowa City, IA
189 - Brent Haynes, Sr, Oak Park HS , Kansas City, MO
215 - Rudi Burtschi, Sr, Oakdale HS, Oakdale, CA
285 - Elijah Madison, Sr, Oak Park HS, Kansas City, MO
Third Team
103 - Sean Boylan, So, St. Mark's HS, Wilmington, DE
112 - B.J. Futrell, Sr, Mount Carmel HS, Chicago, IL
119 - Zach Neibert, Jr, Graham HS, St. Paris, OH
125 - Andrew Long, Sr, Creston HS, Creston, IA
130 - Brian Owen, Sr, University HS, Spokane, WA
135 - Chase Skonieczny, Sr, Walsh Jesuit HS, Cuyahoga Falls, OH
140 - R.J. Peña, Jr, Sprague HS, Salem, OR
145 - Derek St. John, Jr, Iowa City West HS, Iowa City, IA
152 - Josh Condon, Sr, Carl Harrison HS, Kennesaw, GA
160 - Andrew Howe, Sr, Hanover Central HS, Cedar Lake, IN
171 - Ben Bennett, Sr, Rockford HS, Rockford, MI
189 - Romero Cotton, Sr, Hutchinson HS, Hutchinson, KS
215 - Tyrell Fortune, Sr, Lakeridge HS, Lake Oswego, OR
285 - Garrett Goebel, Sr, Montini HS , Lombard, IL
Honorable Mention (listed in alphabetical order)
103: Gilberto Camacho, Sr, Washington HS, Fresno, CA; Devin Carter, So, Christiansburg HS, Christiansburg, VA; Jesse Meis, Sr, Alamosa HS, Alamosa, CO; Ty Mitch, So, Aurora HS, Aurora, OH; Max Nowry, Sr, Wheeling HS, Wheeling, IL.
112: Sean Boyle, Jr, Blair Academy, Blairstown, NJ; Jamie Clark, So, St. Edward HS, Lakewood, OH; Alan Waters, So, Park Hill HS, Kansas City, MO; Sam White, Jr, Perry HS, Massillon, OH; Shane Young, Jr, Penn-Trafford HS, Harrison City, PA.
119: Kegan Handlovic, Sr, Easton HS, Easton, PA; Jordan Keller, Sr, Bishop Carroll HS, Wichita, KS; Mitchell Lofstedt, Sr, Roseburg HS, Roseburg, OR; Destin McCauley, Fr, Apple Valley HS, Apple Valley, MN; Thomas Williams, Sr, South Hills HS, West Covina, CA.
125: Kody Klaus, Sr, Vacaville HS, Vacaville, CA; Tony Ramos, Jr, Glenbard North HS, Carol Stream, IL; Scotti Sentes, Sr, Riverdale HS, Fort Myers, FL; Ben Sergent, Sr, Troy Christian HS, Troy, OH; David Thorn, Jr, St. Michael-Albertville HS, Albertville, MN.
130: Tyler Graff, Sr, Loveland HS, Loveland, CO; Josh Kindig, So, Blue Mountain HS, Schuylkill Haven, PA; Matt McDonough, Sr, Linn-Mar HS, Marion, IA; Derek Reber, Sr, Lewisburg HS, Lewisburg, PA; Derek Valenti, Sr, Kittatinny HS, Newton, NJ.
135: Mark Ballweg, Sr, Waverly-Shell Rock HS, Waverly, IA; Colin Johnston, Sr, Canon-McMIllan HS, Canonsburg, PA; Josh Kratovil, Sr, Lincoln-Way Central HS, New Lenox, IL; Matt Mincey, Sr, Apple Valley HS, Apple Valley, MN; Mark Weber, Sr, Goodrich HS, Goodrich, MI.
140: Andrew Alton, So, Central Mountain HS, Mill Hall, PA; Zach Clemente, Jr, LaSalle Institute, Troy, NY; Derek Garcia, So, Sedro Woolley HS, Sedro Woolley, WA; Trevor Melde, Sr, Delbarton HS, Morristown, NJ; Richie Spicel, Sr, Brunswick HS, Brunswick, OH.
145: Jon Burns, Sr, Cardinal Gibbons HS, Raleigh, NC; Brennan Cosgrove, Sr, Hobart HS, Hobart, IN; Tony Jameson, Sr, Austintown-Fitch HS, Youngstown, OH; Ben Jordan, Sr, Graham HS, St. Paris, OH; Vince Ramos, Sr, Glenbard North HS, Carol Stream, IL.
152: Tyler Johnson, Sr, Bismarck HS, BIsmarck, ND; Eric Jones, Sr, Riverside HS, Auburn, WA; Nick Menditto, Sr, Ocean Township HS, Oakhurst, NJ; Jedd Moore, Sr, Pleasant HS, Marion, OH; Jake Salazar, Sr, Wasatch HS, Heber City, UT.
160: Bryan Bourne, Sr, Spencerport HS, Spencerport, NY; Eric Cubberly, Sr, Eastwood HS, Pemberville, OH; Ethan Lofthouse, Jr, Mountain Crest HS, Hyrum, UT; Alec Ortiz, Jr, Newberg HS, Newberg, OR; Conrad Polz, Sr, Carl Sandburg HS, Orland Park, IL.
171: Jordan Blanton, Sr, Richmond-Burton HS, Richmond, IL; Hunter Collins, Sr, Gilroy HS, Gilroy, CA; Kyle Cuthbertson, Sr, Scottsboro HS, Scottsboro, AL; Chris Phillips, Fr, Monroeville HS, Monroeville, OH; Chris Spangler, Sr, Neuqua Valley HS, Naperville, IL.
189: Louis Bland, Sr, Central Catholic HS, Modesto, CA; Joe Budi, Sr, Kaukauna HS, Kaukauna, WI; Hunter Meys, Sr, Shenendehowa HS, Clifton Park, NY; Chris Perry, Jr, Stillwater HS, Stillwater, OK; Erich Schmidtke, Sr, Aberdeen HS, Aberdeen, WA.
215: Ben Apland, Sr, Downers Grove South HS, Downers Grove, IL; Jordan Enck, Sr, Manheim Central HS, Manheim, PA; Travis Pettengill, Sr, Kearsley HS, Flint, MI; Orlando Scales, Jr, Elder HS, Cincinnati, OH; Jacob Scharbrough, Sr, Weiser HS, Weiser, ID.
285: Ken Altarac, Jr, LaSalle Institute, Troy, NY; Atticus Disney, Sr, Shawnee Heights HS, Tecumseh, KS; Ziad Haddad, Sr, Bethlehem Catholic HS, Bethlehem, PA; Sam Maresh, Sr, Champlin Park HS, Champlin Park, MN; Jarrett "Bubba" Owens, Sr, Tillamook HS, Tillamook, OR.
Your Thoughts?
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Robert Seibert added to this discussion on June 11, 2008
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Do you really think that there are three wrestlers out there at 171 better than Phillips? How about at 160, I think Cubberly deserves to be top three.
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on June 11, 2008
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Robert: To paraphrase Bob Preusse: "it's a big country."
The 171 pounders ranked ahead of Chris Phillips are all capable of beating him as are some of the other hon. mentions like Hunter Collins and Jordan Blanton. Not saying Phillips couldn't beat them but they're very accomplished wrestlers in their own right. Phillips time will come as far as national rankings are concerned. For him to be so highly regarded as a frosh is amazing.
The top three guys at 160, Welch, Winston and Howe are all more accomplished than the very talented Eric Cubberly. Cubberly did sneak past Winston at the pre-season Super 32. But his overall accomplishments don't match up with Winston. Howe is incredible. And Jason Welch is the best senior in the country in my opinion. Watch Welch on video at flowrestling. He's a man among boys even when up against some of the most talented high school wrestlers at his weight.
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on June 11, 2008
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re this years ASICS team, certain wts are always deeper, and from year to year it differs, and both 160 & 171 are deep with elite SENIORS this year---- thus both Cubberly and Phillips get knocked down a bit. At some of the middle and lower wts both Phillips & Cubberly would be top 3 or 4 all classes combined.
At 171 cant be sure how Phillips would do vs elite seniors Wright, Gambrall, Bennett, Hunter Collins, Blanton & Spangler ???
the controversy here is Wright over Gambrall,
who beat Wright
6 to 0
in the Dream Team Classic---- yes i know its only a post season all star event, but both guys knew it meant alot even if it was held 6 weeks after the season ended and each guy got a bunch of pounds.
at 160 pounds Polz from Illinois
is a great Senior, where did he get ranked by ASICS? very low, too low, he deserved to be a bit ahead of Cubberly i think and i like Cubberly alot. Ortiz from Oregon very tough, too. Its just a loaded weight class.
the most controversial ASICS pick besides Wright over Gambrall, imo, is 130 with Grajales over Jordan Oliver. Oliver to me has the look of a 2X NCAA champ at Okla St.
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Dan Ransick added to this discussion on June 11, 2008
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Grajales over Oliver. Asics takes into consideration your freestyle results as well. Oliver was a JR national champion last year in Fargo defeating Sanders. Oliver I thought hands down was the best 130 in the nation. I think they are going by the Super 32 results but that is preseason and hard to judge in a 2-1-1 format. Oliver is super slick and will fit right into the Ok. State lineup with his style.
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Nena Garcia added to this discussion on June 11, 2008
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You can't just look at results from the high school folkstyle season as most ppl do. Freestyle and greco are taken into consideration along with "off-season" folkstyle to find the most decorated all around wrestlers in the nation. Even though one wrestler may have beaten another, you still have to consider that it may end up differently in the other styles. Also, even if one kid is better, if another is consistantly wrestling and placing in more tournaments, they have to be given the edge for putting their name out there.
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on June 12, 2008
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"Asics takes into consideration your freestyle results as well. Oliver was a JR national champion last year in Fargo defeating Sanders. Oliver I thought hands down was the best 130 in the nation."
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DanR,
thats what is puzzling
, Oliver won Fargo freestyle last summer not only beating Sanders (only on the leg clinch really) but
beating TRIGGAS soundly there too.
Grajales did not wr last summer in Fargo, hurt i think. He is better in Greco.
most everyone in the Lehigh Valley is proclaiming Oliver the best wrestler in Easton history, covers alot of ground. Close call, but i would have to go with the senior in this case, Oliver.
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on May 28, 2014
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my Jordan Oliver hyping apparently was prophetic -- one of the best 2X NCAA champs ever probably, along with guys like Metcalf, David Taylor, Randleman, Mocco.
its always fun to look back.
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on May 28, 2014
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Quote from Bob Preusse's post:
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"my Jordan Oliver hyping apparently was prophetic -- one of the best 2X NCAA champs ever probably, along with guys like Metcalf, David Taylor, Randleman, Mocco.
its always fun to look back."
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Bob: You got any thoughts on the stock market?
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on May 28, 2014
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Quote from Hank Kornblut's post:
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" [Bob: You got any thoughts on the stock market?"
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Hank, u asking wrong guy-- i was in the market for 30 years and learned one thing the hard way: no one makes money in the market except brokers, fund managers and insiders. And crooks, look at Madoff & theres a slew of others like him.
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Steve Lester added to this discussion on May 28, 2014
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2007-2008 season had one of the great Ironmans (or Ironmen). Probably my favorite.
HK,
Stopped in your shop quickly (had only a few moments), but you were playing hooky. Next time.
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on May 28, 2014
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2007 Ironman, SPG won it, Blair 2nd, st Eds 3rd. Chris Phillips coming out party, only a freshman he beat Brian Roddy st Eds in 171 finals.
btw Steve, of interest tonite on Diners, Drive-ins and Dives best burger joints, top 10, # 1 Hodads in California-- they put grilled PASTRAMI over their burger.
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on May 29, 2014
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Quote from Bob Preusse's post:
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"2007 Ironman, SPG won it, Blair 2nd, st Eds 3rd. Chris Phillips coming out party, only a freshman he beat Brian Roddy st Eds in 171 finals.
btw Steve, of interest tonite on Diners, Drive-ins and Dives best burger joints, top 10, # 1 Hodads in California-- they put grilled PASTRAMI over their burger."
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Steve: When did you stop?
Bob: I'm gonna do that soon.
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Jamie Teel added to this discussion on May 29, 2014
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Not only did Phillips beat Roddy, but he also knocked off Peltier who I believe was ranked 2nd at the time as well as Zac Thomusseit.
As a side note, I still think Hunter Stieber is overlooked at times. In the 2007 Ironman he ran thru Braschetta, Ty Mitch, Gus Sako and beat Devin Carter soundly in the finals.
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Discussion Topic: 2008 Asics All-American Team
Steve Lester added to this discussion on May 29, 2014
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2007 Ironman which was the 2007-2008 season, Hunter lost to Devin. 2006 Hunter beat him soundly in the 103 final. Funny thing was that Devin Carter was the most impressive looking (to me) in the earlier rounds in his weight classes both years.
HK, sometime in the afternoon. Spur of the moment, as I saw a parking spot right in front and dived in. They said you were around somewhere and looking outside as they said it.
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