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Discussion Topic: Henry Cejudo, Olympic Champ!!!
Scott Nicola added to this discussion on August 19, 2008
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That's what I'm talking about.
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Discussion Topic: Henry Cejudo, Olympic Champ!!!
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on August 19, 2008
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Discussion Topic: Henry Cejudo, Olympic Champ!!!
Dan Ransick added to this discussion on August 19, 2008
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Absolutely amazing run by Cejudo. He shows you that the way to win matches is to score points which he did in all his matches. He didn't ever want it to go to the clinch but he wanted to win with his technique and conditioning.
This begs the question then will Cejudo be the best international wrestler in American history?
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Discussion Topic: Henry Cejudo, Olympic Champ!!!
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on August 19, 2008
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John Smith won two Olympic Gold and 4 World Championships in a 6 year span. He is "the Gold Standard." Cejudo has a ways to go but he got off to the right start.
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Discussion Topic: Henry Cejudo, Olympic Champ!!!
Anthony Windsor II added to this discussion on August 19, 2008
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Who would have thought that a young man from South Central, with no college experience, would be the best freestyle wrestler in the world?
USA! USA! USA!!!
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Discussion Topic: Henry Cejudo, Olympic Champ!!!
Ken DeAngelis added to this discussion on August 19, 2008
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After watching him work out on FloWrestling's coverage of the freestyle camp I'm not surprised how well he did. It was truly impressive to watch him train. It was even more impressive to watch him compete. I'm just glad I didn't wake up any of my kids as I was watching his matches last night and this morning. Great performance.
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Discussion Topic: Henry Cejudo, Olympic Champ!!!
Mike Hojnacki added to this discussion on August 19, 2008
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Watching Henry compete was awesome... I think he truly exemplifies the American style of wrestling. The "goer" and "intense" mentality was clearly displayed. If Henry was coming back to the center from previously being scored on, it wasn't more than 10 seconds before he was in on his opponents legs trying to get it back. It was a well deserved gold!
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Discussion Topic: Henry Cejudo, Olympic Champ!!!
Mike Taylor added to this discussion on August 19, 2008
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Quote from Mike Hojnacki's post:
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"Watching Henry compete was awesome... I think he truly exemplifies the American style of wrestling. The "goer" and "intense" mentality was clearly displayed. If Henry was coming back to the center from previously being scored on, it wasn't more than 10 seconds before he was in on his opponents legs trying to get it back. It was a well deserved gold!"
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Funny you mention the "American style of wrestling." I was thinking about that very thing while watching him. I remember listening to an interview of one of the Russian freestyle wrestlers and they were saying how they pick us apart is just wait and let us wrestle ourselves into a bad position. You could see Henry do that as well, but he was able to overcome that w/ superior conditioning. In his semifinal match, his opponent was a superior technical wrestler (IMO) but as the match wore on you saw fatigue set in and dramatically change the outcome of that match. Henry looked tougher as the match continued and his opponents were typically reduced to stalling on the side to catch their breath. If the American style of wrestling means we go non-stop and rely on conditioning to win matches... I'll take it.
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Discussion Topic: Henry Cejudo, Olympic Champ!!!
Jack Muni added to this discussion on August 19, 2008
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Mike, do you remember the match where the ref got ticked because he told the tired wrestler to get to the middle of the mat and he was stalling and motioning to the ref something about his shoe?? You knew Henry was in top condition and it was only a matter of time at that point. And sure enough, his relentless attack was overwhelming!!! Even the commentator was saying the opponents were getting tired. I think some of the opponents thought they could kinda bully him because of his youth, but he didn't take any of that. he hand fought with the best of them. The intense look in his eyes as he squared off said it all. <angry>
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Discussion Topic: Henry Cejudo, Olympic Champ!!!
Dan Cosimi added to this discussion on August 19, 2008
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Quote from Dan Ransick's post:
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"This begs the question then will Cejudo be the best international wrestler in American history?"
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Maybe he will be, and that would be awesome, but let's not jump to conclusions yet. He's done a lot - winning an Olympic gold medal - but to be the best of all-time he'll have to do a lot more. Even one world-level medal is awesome, but Bruce Baumgartner had thirteen. Add in guys like Gable, Smith, Lewis, Kemp, etc. and you have a very steep road to climb before you can be named the best of all-time.
To put what I'm saying in perspective...
Bruce Baumgartner
4x Olympic Medalist
2x Olympic Gold Medalist (1984, 1992)
1x Olympic Silver Medalist (1988)
1x Olympic Bronze Medalist (1996)
9x World Medalist
3x World Gold Medalist (1986, 1993, 1995)
3x World Silver Medalist (1989, 1990, 1994)
3x World Bronze Medalist (1983, 1985, 1987)
16x USA Senior National Champion (1980-1996)
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Discussion Topic: Henry Cejudo, Olympic Champ!!!
Mike Taylor added to this discussion on August 20, 2008
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Quote from Jack Muni's post:
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"Mike, do you remember the match where the ref got ticked because he told the tired wrestler to get to the middle of the mat and he was stalling and motioning to the ref something about his shoe?? You knew Henry was in top condition and it was only a matter of time at that point. And sure enough, his relentless attack was overwhelming!!! Even the commentator was saying the opponents were getting tired. I think some of the opponents thought they could kinda bully him because of his youth, but he didn't take any of that. he hand fought with the best of them. The intense look in his eyes as he squared off said it all. <angry>"
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Very much so. I loved it. It was his semi finals match. What I like about this new format in the Olympics is it favors our (the US) style of wrestling. If you can get a squad of wrestlers who are on the attack and making their opponent tired while being in tip top shape themselves, we will see it pay off in the later rounds. That is when you see conditioning make itself evident. The way these guys are short cycled, there really isn't much recovery time at the Olympic games. If they keep that format, we could see our medal count increase over the next few Olympic games simply because we have out trained them. Zadick and Schwab both lost because, while they are both former Iowa wrestlers, they didn't wrestle the hard nosed style they were taught. Ben lost because...well he is used to being able to expose his back in a scramble and come out on top. As he found, that isn't the case anymore. That will change w/ experience.
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Discussion Topic: Henry Cejudo, Olympic Champ!!!
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on August 20, 2008
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That style is more effective if you have some dynamic offense/defense to go with it (ala Cejudo). HC was constantly on the head but has some tremendous offensive attacks and is solid on his defense.
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Discussion Topic: Henry Cejudo, Olympic Champ!!!
Mike Hojnacki added to this discussion on August 20, 2008
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I think for Henry to climb the ladder of aformentioned "freestyle greats" he will have to keep himself out of those bad positions and not give up as many points early on. He will be an absolute force to be reckoned with if he keeps maturing and improving at the rate he has been...
I was just thinking what a match between Henry and Batirov would look like if Batirov were still at 55 kg. Would Henry be able to finish on the "virtually impossible to score on" Batirov? Batirov wins matches simply because he gets a takedown (maybe two) per period and doesn't surrender any points. Henry thrives from flurries and wears down opponents with his conditioning. Just something to think about...
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