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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Fred Feeney added to this discussion on January 17, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7ClcH9Gp0DA



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Ben Golden added to this discussion on January 17, 2012

That's pretty awesome. Why is it illegal?



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Dom Mancini added to this discussion on January 17, 2012

That's legal - correctly called by the official at the match - not a backflip because he wrapped around the other wrestler with his hands.



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Fred Feeney added to this discussion on January 17, 2012

Dom,

It is illegal.

The rules state that a back flip from the standing position is an illegal maneuver. Since he is standing, at a point..its illegal.



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Jack Muni added to this discussion on January 17, 2012

I think someone could argue he was never standing up. Now is standing, and standing upright, the same thing??? None the less, a very interesting move, and rather dangerous.



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Fred Feeney added to this discussion on January 18, 2012

We actually talked about it and showed it tonight at our local meeting.



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on January 18, 2012

I understand it's illegal in HS, but I thought it was a college match. Is it also illegal at that level?



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Dom Mancini added to this discussion on January 18, 2012

I'm saying it's not a backflip Fred how do you define what a backflip is? any backward sumersalt motion?

Here is the position that the rule was made for

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCOvlWKPN2U



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Tony Bradberry added to this discussion on January 18, 2012

Quote from Brady Hiatt's post:

"I understand it's illegal in HS, but I thought it was a college match. Is it also illegal at that level?"



Pretty sure it is still legal in college.



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Tony Bradberry added to this discussion on January 18, 2012

Quote from Dom Mancini's post:

"I'm saying it's not a backflip Fred how do you define what a backflip is? any backward sumersalt motion?

Here is the position that the rule was made for

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCOvlWKPN2U"



We all know that is what the rules intent was, but the way it is worded it eliminates all back flips. I think it is pretty obvious what that kid did was a back flip. You could argue semantics and say it was more of a back handspring since he posted off his opponent, but he still mad a backward rotating motion in air.

I hate the rule and used to use this move in college and high school, but it is what it is.



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on January 18, 2012

Quote from Tony Bradberry's post:

"We all know that is what the rules intent was, but the way it is worded it eliminates all back flips. I think it is pretty obvious what that kid did was a back flip. You could argue semantics and say it was more of a back handspring since he posted off his opponent, but he still mad a backward rotating motion in air.

I hate the rule..."



That.



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Fred Feeney added to this discussion on January 18, 2012

It is legal in college...and the guy who sent it to me told me it was a high school event. If its a college event then yes...legal.

A few years ago, 2009 I think...a kid got hurt doing that back flip from a "tree top" position. The NFHS came in and stopped it. But...by saying "from the standing position", they are saying that anytime you are on 2 feet without hands, or knees on the mat, that is considered a standing position.
At some point...this kid was in a standing position before he flips over.



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Tommy Rowlands added to this discussion on January 18, 2012

That was amazing.



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on January 18, 2012

^^^^^
No joke. I'd need a spotter (a really strong spotter to do all the work) for me to hit that move. Or be wrestling a 4 year old, a very short 4 year old that I could backward sumersault over.



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Discussion Topic: Cool move but illegal
Rick Wasmer added to this discussion on January 18, 2012

I think it's college , CUW open 141 pounds



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