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Discussion Topic: Cleveland Senate Wrestling Discussion
Steve Lester added to this discussion on December 14, 2007
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The season is just beginning, but one thing that jumped out from early results was increases in the number of participants at, at least, two schools.
Glenville put 12 wresters on the mat in their 49-30 victory over Rhodes, who had 11 wrestlers going. In 9 contested bouts, Glenville won 6.
Similarly, East Tech had 12 wrestlers going in dropping a 45-27 decision to John Adams' 11 wrestlers. Adams took 7 of 10 contested bouts.
The early question is can anyone pose a challenge to defending champion Collinwood? It will take numbers to do it and 4 schools are, at this moment, meeting that part of the equation.
On the flip side, South had 6 wrestlers weigh-in against John Marshall, who had two.
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Discussion Topic: Cleveland Senate Wrestling Discussion
Steve Lester added to this discussion on December 14, 2007
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A couple of notes:
1. Results above are "newspaper published" which will sometimes have errors.
2. I prefer to concentrate on "positives".
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Discussion Topic: Cleveland Senate Wrestling Discussion
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on December 14, 2007
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Glenville's coach, Greg Dotson, has always done a good job. Some years he's had more wrestlers than others but he's always got a few tough kids. Unfortunately, he usually gets his hands on them too late to get them to a level where anyone would really notice. Last year I watched them wrestle Cleve. Heights and he had a terrific 189. But it was obvious the kid didn't have the experience to qualify for state. But he had the talent.
Who's the head coach at John Marshall?
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Discussion Topic: Cleveland Senate Wrestling Discussion
Steve Lester added to this discussion on December 16, 2007
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"Last year I watched them wrestle Cleve. Heights and he had a terrific 189."
That was Hassan Crutcher, MVP of the Senate tournament. He qualified for Mentor District but had trouble in third periods against the more skilled/experienced wrestlers he met. He saw almost no third periods, or even second periods, throughout last year.
Collinwood, with 7 to 10 competing, was in non-league duals this past week, winning some and losing some others (Maple and Euclid).
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Discussion Topic: Cleveland Senate Wrestling Discussion
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on December 16, 2007
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Regarding Crutcher--thanks for the info. Nice to see someone paying attention to these kids.
Several years ago Cleve JFK had an unreal talent at 189 (I want to say his name was Bruce Moore but am not sure) who also played football. I watched him work out at Shaker and it was obvious he didn't know how to push himself or he could have been state champ (2003-2004--somewhere around this time).
As long as Jay Hunt draws a breath, Collinwood will have some competitive wrestlers. Jay knows how to prepare kids.
Who's the coach at John Marshall?
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Discussion Topic: Cleveland Senate Wrestling Discussion
Pat Chrestoff added to this discussion on December 16, 2007
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Discussion Topic: Cleveland Senate Wrestling Discussion
David Armstrong added to this discussion on December 16, 2007
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his name was indeed Bruce Moore.. he had no one to workout with, but he was a hard worker
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Discussion Topic: Cleveland Senate Wrestling Discussion
Steve Lester added to this discussion on December 19, 2007
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Jay Hunt has had (at least) the last three Senate state placers I believe. I still think about the stunning sectional final upset when Myron Andrews beat the eventual state champ from Maple Heights. Erique Robinson. Andrews proved that was no accident by making the district finals and then placing 6th at state.
It's worth noting that when Iowa Central JC came to the Eds gym last month they had three local boys listed on their roster, though none saw action--Tim Peskar, Ahmad Motley, and Myron Andrews.
I figure the next Senate state champ will come from Collinwood, but who knows?
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Discussion Topic: Cleveland Senate Wrestling Discussion
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on December 19, 2007
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Steve: The greatest opportunity weight class is always 285. It's the one where experience means the least and size and athleticism can cause one to rapidly ascend to the tops of the ranks. In the early 1990's, Glenville's Mike Johnson came out of nowhere to emerge as a legit state champ contender. He was big, athletic and was a fantastic thrower. The next state champ from Cleveland will likely be a big man.
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Discussion Topic: Cleveland Senate Wrestling Discussion
Steve Lester added to this discussion on December 24, 2007
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That could be Hank. Glenville's last state qualifier was Fred Johnson, also a 285, though the year he went, 2003, that bracket was really loaded.
Still, it was the following year that Collinwood had great prospects and it was in the lighter weights, Jay Hunt at 119 and David Armstrong at 125. I think both were district champs at Mass Perry. Both were definitely state champ caliber that year. Armstrong got off to a rough start against the Perrysburg 4 seed. Just one of those things.
Hunt was a bit unlucky that Ryan Smith and Andrew Perez were both out of the Perrysburg District meaning he would have had to face both to win it all. In the semifinals he lost to Smith in a great battle, 3-2. Smith claimed his second title over Perez in the final, with Hunt taking the third place podium spot.
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Discussion Topic: Cleveland Senate Wrestling Discussion
Steve Lester added to this discussion on December 24, 2007
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In a Cleveland Plain Dealer listing, Mr. Leonard Jackson, 216-574-8670, is seeking wrestling coaches for the Senate.
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Collinwood took 6th place at the Kalin tourney, won by Nomandy. The Railroaders grabbed a first (Rohena at 285), 3rd (Steven at 119), and two 4ths (Austin at 125 and Underwood at 189).
John Adams placed 7th at the Cuyahoga Heights tourney, won by the hosts. Highlights were two 3rds (Laster at 119 and Carradine at 130) and a 4th (Hall at 189).
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Dual meets:
Colllinwood 36, John Marshall 12
Both Marshall wrestlers, Mills at 135 and Vasquez at 215, pinned their opponents.
Glenville 42, East Tech 30
For Glenville, Brown at 125, Milan at 130, Sams at 145, A. Davis at 160, Daugett at 171, and Crutcher at 285, recorded pins. Tech got pins from Jackson at 135 and Gardner at 215, and decisions from Rates at 152 and Kinnie at 189.
John Adams 62, South 18
Adams had a dec (Cunningham at 152), TF (Paul Sains at 145), and pin (P. Sains at 160). South countered with a pin (D Gross at 135).
Rhodes 54, East High 12
Rhodes had 4 pins (Ivanski at 112, Is. Williams at 171, Ir. Williams at 189, and Vanderau at 285). East got pins from two wrestlers (Jackson at 145 and Stanton at 215).
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Discussion Topic: Cleveland Senate Wrestling Discussion
Steve Lester added to this discussion on January 25, 2008
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Congratulations to Glenville who upended Collinwood 36 to 33 last night. I imagine that Collinwood had had a pretty long dual meet winning streak in the Senate.
In other action South beat JFK 24-18, John Adams beat East 48-24, and Lincoln-West topped John Marshall 30-12.
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