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Discussion Topic: Why no love for all-time great Robin Reed?
Christopher Sommers added to this discussion on August 13, 2012
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I've always heard of Gable and Sanderson in the arguement of the top two wrestlers all time and the usual names of all time greats but why no love for Robin Reed? I came accross his name on a different forum but Reed sounds like an absolute monster. He was undefeated in high school, college and internationally even defeating his fellow teammate who won olympic gold at heavyweight while Reed only wrestled at 134. So why has his name got lost with the times or so it seems?
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Discussion Topic: Why no love for all-time great Robin Reed?
Mark Palumbo added to this discussion on August 13, 2012
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Wow! He has my vote to be put in the converstion. Below is from Wiki
"While still attending Oregon State, Robin participated in the 1924 Pacific Northwest Olympic team trials. He entered the 145.5, 158.5, 174.0, and 192.0 pound weight classes, and won them all. He made the Olympic team, and on the boat trip to Europe he had unofficial matches against every other member of the United States team. It was widely known that he had the ability to pin every member of the team and on this occasion he nearly accomplished that, pinning 12 out the 13 of them, all but the person who would become the gold medalist at heavyweight that year, Harry Steel (He still beat him, however, despite not being able to pin him)".
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Discussion Topic: Why no love for all-time great Robin Reed?
Freddy Carr added to this discussion on August 13, 2012
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Quote from Mark Palumbo's post:
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"Wow! He has my vote to be put in the converstion. Below is from Wiki
"While still attending Oregon State, Robin participated in the 1924 Pacific Northwest Olympic team trials. He entered the 145.5, 158.5, 174.0, and 192.0 pound weight classes, and won them all. He made the Olympic team, and on the boat trip to Europe he had unofficial matches against every other member of the United States team. It was widely known that he had the ability to pin every member of the team and on this occasion he nearly accomplished that, pinning 12 out the 13 of them, all but the person who would become the gold medalist at heavyweight that year, Harry Steel (He still beat him, however, despite not being able to pin him)"."
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LOL that reads like a Bill Brasky bit.
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Discussion Topic: Why no love for all-time great Robin Reed?
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on August 13, 2012
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That reads like the bio of the dictator of Naughty Korea.
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Discussion Topic: Why no love for all-time great Robin Reed?
Patrick Campbell added to this discussion on August 13, 2012
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You sure that isn't the bio for Chuck Norris? :-D
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Discussion Topic: Why no love for all-time great Robin Reed?
Christopher Sommers added to this discussion on August 13, 2012
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It reads funny but I've looked it up and every source comes up with very similar versions with pretty much the same details so I feel like it's true. Even okie states website boasts the same thing in a bio about him.
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Discussion Topic: Why no love for all-time great Robin Reed?
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on August 13, 2012
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Chris--There are a number of wrestlers that are in the discussion of all-time greats. Youjiro Uetake--who won 3NCAA titles and Olympic Gold while still in college--would be another one. You could also bring up Dan Hodge. And you didn't mention John Smith who had unquestionably the greatest international career of any American wrestler--two Olympic Golds and four World titles. If you take everything into account--college and international--then Smith gets the top spot over any American from the last 50 years. I'd rank Lee Kemp with Cael, Gable and Uetake as right behind Smith Then there's Bruce Baumgartner who medalled in four Olympics. Think about how difficult that is.
Robin Reed was extraordinary. It's just so difficult to rank past versus present.
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Discussion Topic: Why no love for all-time great Robin Reed?
Leo Zimmer added to this discussion on August 13, 2012
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I thought he did a nice job as host of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous too...
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Discussion Topic: Why no love for all-time great Robin Reed?
Matt Hall added to this discussion on August 13, 2012
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I wouldn't say John Smith is unquestionably the best US international wrestler.
Bruce Baumgartner...
1984 Olympic Gold Medalist
1986 World Champion
1988 Olympic Silver Medalist
1992 Olympic Gold Medalist
1993 World Champion
1995 World Champion
1996 Olympic Bronze Medalist
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Discussion Topic: Why no love for all-time great Robin Reed?
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on August 13, 2012
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Matt: You've actually failed to list all of Bruce's accomplishments.
Tblisi Tournament (arguably as tough as the World Championships)
1983: silver 1984: Gold 1985: Silver
I also think you're missing some more of his world placements.
My only quibble would be that winning Olympic Gold in 1984 has to come with an asterix but in Bruce's case it's safe to assume he was good enough to win Gold against all competition.
I think that one could argue for either John Smith or Bruce Baumgartner and make a good argument. Bruce's career is indeed extraordinary. Thank you for reminding me.
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Discussion Topic: Why no love for all-time great Robin Reed?
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on August 13, 2012
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Quote from Matt Hall's post:
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"I wouldn't say John Smith is unquestionably the best US international wrestler.
Bruce Baumgartner...
1984 Olympic Gold Medalist
1986 World Champion
1988 Olympic Silver Medalist
1992 Olympic Gold Medalist
1993 World Champion
1995 World Champion
1996 Olympic Bronze Medalist"
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Most would. 6 Gold in 6 years ranks higher than 7 medals (5 gold) over a 12 year span. That's 6 years of non-medaling.
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Discussion Topic: Why no love for all-time great Robin Reed?
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on August 13, 2012
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Matt Hall--"I wouldn't say John Smith is unquestionably the best US international wrestler."
Bruce Baumgartner...
1983: World Silver, Tblisi Silver
1984 Olympic Gold Medalist, Tblisi Gold
1985: World Bronze, Tblisi Silver
1986 World Champion
1987: World Bronze
1988 Olympic Silver Medalist
1989: World Silver
1990: World Silver
1992 Olympic Gold Medalist
1993 World Champion
1994: World Silver
1995 World Champion
1996 Olympic Bronze Medalist
The only year Bruce failed to place top three at a World Championship was 1991. That's thirteen top three finishes over a fourteen year period. He won five world titles. Is this equivalent to Smith winning six championships over seven years? We can discuss it. But it sure is incredible.
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