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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on January 30, 2008
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After watching Logan Stieber in the Brecksville Finals, he may be the best all around wrestler in Ohio. He's excellent on his feet and his riding skills remind me of a good collegiate. Indeed, as a sophomore in high school, he looks like a solid D1 wrestler. Opfer fights hard the whole match just to keep it close. In fact, it's the quality of Opfer that makes Stieber so impressive.
All four Monroeville wrestlers are incredibly skilled and each could be among the ten best in Ohio. I'm blown away by how good they are on top and on their feet. They make riding seem natural. Just amazing to watch them on these videos.
Those of you that have opined the Bucks need to land the "Monroeville Three" are correct.
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Scott Shaw added to this discussion on January 30, 2008
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I know that this was probably covered before, but the Ironman listed Tessari as being 16 at the time of the tourney. That would make him 19 as a Senior and unable to compete, right? I was wondering if this was the case, or if it was a typo and he was only 15.
All four of the boys from Monroeville (both Stieber boys, Phillips, and Tessari) would look nice in Scarlet and Gray in the future. The question is now, what 8th grade stud is going to come in for Monroeville and make it 5 champions next season and a State Team Title? Is their one in their system, or one close by that can move in? I am looking forward to watching these young men at the Schott this season.
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Dan Cosimi added to this discussion on January 30, 2008
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Quote from Hank Kornblut's post:
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"After watching Logan Stieber in the Brecksville Finals, he may be the best all around wrestler in Ohio."
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There's no "may be" about it (in my opinion). As I said this summer, Logan Stieber is the best wrestler in Ohio. It's a close call, but he's the best.
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Quote from Hank Kornblut's post:
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"He's excellent on his feet and his riding skills remind me of a good collegiate wrestler."
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All three of the Monroeville lightweights impressed me a lot with superior riding skills. I'm going to study the tapes of them riding - not to scout the Monroeville wrestlers, but to learn and show my wrestlers how it's done.
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Quote from Hank Kornblut's post:
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"Opfer fights hard the whole match just to keep it close. In fact, it's the quality of Opfer that makes Stieber so impressive."
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My thoughts exactly. Opfer did the absolute best he could - the best anyone not named David Taylor could - against Stieber and that amounted to fighting to not get dominated. Opfer is excellent and he fought hard.
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Quote from Scott Shaw's post:
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"Ironman listed Tessari as being 16 ... would make him 19 as a senior and unable to compete, right?"
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I think an athlete is only ineligible if he/she is 19 before the school year starts, but I might be wrong.
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Quote from Scott Shaw's post:
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"All four of the boys from Monroeville (both Stieber boys, Phillips, and Tessari) would look nice in Scarlet and Gray in the future."
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Yes. All four of them.
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Quote from Scott Shaw's post:
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"The question is now, what 8th grade stud is going to come in for Monroeville..."
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They've got a group of young studs coming in (new ones), I hear. Not at the level of the "big four" but still young studs.
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Scott Shaw added to this discussion on January 30, 2008
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Dan, you are right. After reading your post I went to the OHSAA website and checked the Bylaws for myself.
Bylaw 4
Section 2. Age Limitation
4-2-1 - If a student enrolled in high school attains the age of 19 before August 1, the student shall be ineligible to participate in high school interscholastic athletics for the school year commencing in that calendar year.
I always thought that the rule was prior to the season in which they were to compete, ie. a student turns 19 on March 15 he can wrestle that season but not run track. I can be wrong from time to time.
I was going to get up on my soapbox about 19 year olds being able to compete in High School athletics, but I won't. I will just say that I was not 19 until I was a sophomore in college.
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on January 30, 2008
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Well, DC, here's the hypothetical question: If you're Ohio State, would you prefer Taylor or Stieber? Forget that they're different years. Say you could just have one. Which do you take? Why?
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Scott Shaw added to this discussion on January 30, 2008
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In the scenario that I could only get one, I take David Taylor for no reason other than he is from Graham and a Graham pipeline would be nice. No offense to Monroeville, but the future prospects of DI talent for years to come is not there, it is in St. Paris.
Yes, the studs at Monroeville would not be nice to coach against but the chances of landing all 4 is slim anyway, so open up the road to the west and keep getting those boys a couple at a time. That is just my opinion, which that and a nickel will get you nothing.
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Dan Ransick added to this discussion on January 30, 2008
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Stieber will end up being a 141 or bigger I think. Taylor right now looks to be a 125. Get them both you know Ryan will.
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Christopher Henderson added to this discussion on January 31, 2008
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Jeff Schuller, from Monroeville high school, wrestles heavyweight at CSU. Hopefully, he could convince the Monroeville kids to come to Cleveland State, which might be the closest DI wrestling program to their town. I don't see it happening, but wouldn't it be great? They would have to move their wrestling matches from Woodling Gym to the Wolstein Center. tOSU can have all the Graham wrestlers and CSU can have the Monroeville ones.
Let's all help Coach Effner and Jeff Schuller in recruiting the Steibers and Phillips and Tessari. Go Vikings and Buckeyes!!
Also, does anyone know if last year's 78 pound Junior High State Champ Ryan Taylor is David Taylor's little brother? If he wrestles 103 for Graham next year, they may have the best high school team assembled in Ohio history.
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on January 31, 2008
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Chris H--Good point. Our OSU bias is showing. While we all love seeing the Bucks do well, we should not assume that every great talent belongs in scarlet and grey. There are a number of excellent programs in this state and it would be great to see these kids--and other Ohio studs--in all of them.
Personally, I live close to CSU so seeing the Monroeville kids in green and white would be fine.
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Dan Ransick added to this discussion on January 31, 2008
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Ryan Taylor is not David's younger brother.
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Scott Shaw added to this discussion on January 31, 2008
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CH I was wondering that about the young Taylor as well. The fact that he is not David Taylor's brother doesn't change the fact that him at 103 would seem to make next year's Graham line-up pretty strong.
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Tom Elmer added to this discussion on January 31, 2008
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You can be sure every program will be pulling out all the stops to sign the Stiebers and Chris Phillips. Keeping them in Ohio will be hard, especially with the University of Iowa's resurgence under Brands, the success of Oklahoma State, Cael Sanderson at Iowa State, and all the other great programs. Mario Mason mentioned to me at Ironman one reason he picked the University of Minnesota is to have Dustin as a workout partner his four years (he is supposed to stay on after he graduates to train for the Olympics).
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Dan Ransick added to this discussion on January 31, 2008
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I also believe that one of the Jordan's will be in the lineup shortly. Isaac I believe is in the 8th grade this year and if he is there watch-out he will be a force to reckon with immediately. Don't forget that Felipe Martinez will be in the lineup next year too probably at 145 or so the kid is the real deal.
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Bob Preusse added to this discussion on February 1, 2008
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On public TV, Antiques Roadshow (from Orlando, Florida) last night, they showed a chest of drawers inscribed from "Monroeville, Ohio, dated 1824" ---- that's as much as I can contribute to this discussion right now.
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Discussion Topic: Logan Stieber and company
Dan Ransick added to this discussion on February 1, 2008
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Bob,
That is priceless there - antique roadshow.
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