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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Ethan Moore added to this discussion on March 9, 2008
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Lived up to the hype 100% in my opinion. One of the best matches I have watched in a while.
Hopefully Dustin will crank up the cardio another notch before nationals. I would really like to see him reverse today's decision.
Metcalf is a BEAST.
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 10, 2008
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It was an excellent match but one that also exposed the fact that Dustin is no longer a dominant college wrestler. Injuries appear to be an issue as his hamstring was clearly bothering him. Those of you expecting this match to be a preview of the finals be forewarned: Dustin is beatable.
I thought Dustin got the "perfect" draw at Big Tens--as opposed to Lance who faced Patacsil, Lang and Jenkins twice. That won't happen at nationals.
I'm not going to say Dustin won't be a finalist--but he is not likely to beat Metcalf.
Just my opinion...
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on March 10, 2008
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Quote from Ethan Moore's post:
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"Lived up to the hype 100% in my opinion. One of the best matches I have watched in a while.
Hopefully Dustin will crank up the cardio another notch before nationals. I would really like to see him reverse today's decision.
Metcalf is a BEAST."
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Cardio is not something that improves overnight. At this point only so much improvement can be made in that timeframe, though anything helps.
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Ethan Moore added to this discussion on March 10, 2008
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Gary - I agree, but I hope that if he ramps it up just a tad it will allow him to be more engaged in the 3rd period.
I also hope that Metcalf's suspect actions (several shots out of bounds/after the whistle, and the elbow to the back of the head at the end of the match) will fuel Dustin's fire.
Hank, I disagree with you to an extent. Dustin still looks like the clear number 2 at the class. I would be shocked if he were to lose before the finals.
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Gary Sommers added to this discussion on March 10, 2008
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Ethan, I agree. You never know what little bit might be the difference-maker.
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Mike Hojnacki added to this discussion on March 10, 2008
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While Dustin didn't have much trouble up until the finals in the Big 10, Nationals might be a much different story if he faces some of the guys that were opposite him in the Big 10 bracket. Throw in Burroughs and O'Connor... I would be hard pressed to find anybody but the 149lb. national champ taking home the OW award; and I'm really hoping that's Dustin.
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Ethan Moore added to this discussion on March 10, 2008
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Good posts.
One thing is for certain, the Brands style is alive and well in Iowa, and Metcalf embodies this approach to a T. His pressure and style are amazingly difficult to combat.
Sponseller's conditioning is similar, but Metcalf is so physical that kids wilt under his pressure.
I still think Dustin can, and will, beat him. And I will laugh and laugh when it happens.
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 10, 2008
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Ethan: The "clear #2" has lost to Mike Roberts, Lance Palmer and Brent Metcalf this season already. Dustin, at 100%, is probably the #2. I don't think he's 100%. Just my opinion.
I like Caldwell, who was sensational in Vegas, to rise up and challenge Metcalf if they're on the same side. The draw will have a huge impact on who does and doesn't place in this weight.
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Mike Hojnacki added to this discussion on March 10, 2008
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I agree with Hank about the draw. In the end, there are only 8 spots on the podium, and some outstanding wrestlers won't be standing on it.
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Ben Roerig added to this discussion on March 12, 2008
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What do you guys think about the "questionable" tactics of Metcalf throughout the match, i.e. out of bounds wrestling, and pressing the forearm in the back of the neck at the end. I can't really tell if I'm just being a homer, of if they really were as classless i think (though I don't think the out of bounds wrestling was that big of a deal).
In regard to Caldwell, I've heard that his conditioning is generally very suspect, so I could see the grind of the tourney werighing on him, although he's exciting enough that I would love to see him in the finals.
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Roe Fox added to this discussion on March 12, 2008
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I agree with Ethan that (if he is healthy) DS is the clear 2. If not, he may not make top 4. 149 is atrocious this year. Lang looks like he could finish anywhere from 2 to out of AA. Same with Caldwell and others.
I know I'm probably the only one but for all the style points DS has seemingly lost with people the last two years, Metcalf doesn't look to have added much since high school to his repertoire. No question he is 1 right now and no question he has a great and powerful motor and it may be enough. I just think DS is every bit as strong and maybe better technically. He just needs to hang around to the end (easier said than done). He was winning the match most of the way.
And, yes, I am an Ohio homer. If DS loses I hope its to Palmer in the finals.
As far as Metcalf's actions during his match last Sunday I really didn't see alot of extracurricular stuff that bothered me except for the forearm at the end (and only because of the miniscule time left). The out of bounds stuff went on in their Senior National and Medina matches. Two fast and powerful wrestlers with great countering ability. Inevitably something is going to continue out of bounds.
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
John Flanigan added to this discussion on March 12, 2008
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I do not follow these guys as closely as everyone here does, but wouldn't DS be #1 if he were 100%? If he loses 5-3 at not full strength, I would like his chances if he were completely healthy.
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Roe Fox added to this discussion on March 13, 2008
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I agree but unfortunately I believe he lost to Roberts from BU earlier in the season when the injuries weren't an issue (at least not publicly).
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on March 13, 2008
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Some thoughts on a potential rematch:
1) Dustin remains a sensational wrestler. But he needs to be able to score on Metcalf late in a match to beat him. You don't beat him by defending your lead. To take him out requires a "pedal to the metal" type of effort. Dustin can shoot successfully on Metcalf if he has to. Can he finish with less than 30 seconds to go in the third period of a tied match? His shrug and short drag have worked in the past but a shot and finish are what would prove a difference maker for Dustin.
2) Dustin is much more vulnerable to the earlier round defeat than Metcalf. Other than Caldwell, a wildcard performer at this weight, it's very difficult to see anyone beating Metcalf
3) Metcalf pushed the limits as to what is and isn't acceptable with some of his out of bounds stuff. But in a big match with an opponent wrestling defensively, it's a refs call to make. The extra-curriculars are not the difference makers.
4) During last Sunday's finals bout, I rooted as hard for Dustin as I do for Buckeye wrestlers. If it comes down to it, I'd love to see him win. Dustin is our high school legend. Metcalf is not. Go Ohio!
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Discussion Topic: Dustin Schlatter v. Brent Metcalf
Dan Ransick added to this discussion on March 13, 2008
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Metcalf wrestles the same way he did in high school. I am not sold on him being on the next level. He beats people with an endless gas tank and his physical style. Dustin handles that style better than anyone in the nation.
If Dustin counters the style of Metcalf with shucks and ducks and puts pressure on him he will win every time. Both the losses to Metcalf he did not have constant pressure on him and Metcalf had more in the tank to win.
Dustin is Ohio wrestling and I cheer him on very hard when he wrestles. I hope C.P. is able to come back this year and perhaps win an NCAA title assuming he is 100% healthy.
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