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Discussion Topic: Tom Ryan in Buckeye HOF
Roe Fox added to this discussion on July 14, 2023
Well deserved, in my opinion. Turned an underperforming program into an annual national contender (most years).
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Discussion Topic: Tom Ryan in Buckeye HOF
Ben Golden added to this discussion on July 14, 2023
Very well deserved. Congratulations Tom!
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Discussion Topic: Tom Ryan in Buckeye HOF
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on July 14, 2023
Coached an NCAA Champion Squad...a 4x NCAA Champ...an Olympic Champ and a couple different world champs...numerous NCAA Champs and AA's (averages around 4 per season)....Several Big Ten Team Titles....Built the Covelli Center...the best recruits want to come...those are reasons one gets into a Hall of Fame. In fact you build Halls of Fame for men like Tom Ryan.
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Discussion Topic: Tom Ryan in Buckeye HOF
Mike Stann added to this discussion on July 14, 2023
during his time as coach only one has been better
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Discussion Topic: Tom Ryan in Buckeye HOF
Chris Thomas added to this discussion on July 15, 2023
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Discussion Topic: Tom Ryan in Buckeye HOF
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on July 15, 2023
Tom Ryan is always a little too optimistic is my concern. He says he has a top 12 guy in every weight class so doesn’t want to go to transfer portal to over recruit basically.
125 and 184 are not top 12 and may not even qualify. I mean I hope they do great but if you can grab someone out of the portal you do.
157 paddy is borderline top 12
165 I’m not believing either until hepner gets more matches under his belt. Four weights of some concern that need addressed
If he doesn’t go to transfer portal he will never win another title. That’s just the way college wrestling has become. PENN state will over recruit in a heart beat. But for him to just sit and say he basically has 10 strong weight classes is just a straight lie.
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Discussion Topic: Tom Ryan in Buckeye HOF
Jim Behrens added to this discussion on July 15, 2023
Quote from Nick Lecklider's post:
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" But for him to just sit and say he basically has 10 strong weight classes is just a straight lie."
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Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and beliefs (and I do not wear rose colored glasses) but your last statement is more than a little out of line IMO.
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Discussion Topic: Tom Ryan in Buckeye HOF
Nick Lecklider added to this discussion on July 15, 2023
Who is closer to the truth? 125 and 184 don’t qualify for nationals or 125 and 184 all American for buckeyes next year?
Malik heinselman was barely a top 12 wrestler and was well ahead of the rest of the 125s on the roster. There is no publication that has these two weights anywhere near top 12. Maybe it’s not a lie because Tom Ryan really believes his kids are that good but no evidence is supporting his statement.
149 may even be an area of big concern if sasso decides to go 157.
Point is there are many weights of concern for the upcoming season and Tom Ryan doesn’t believe that’s the case so didn’t choose to go to portal.
Difference between Cael and Tom. Cael went to dean over beard
Cael is going messenbrjnk over facundo essentially.
Cael is ruthless and wants to win and will hurt feelings, Tom is a genuinely good guy that may let that get in the way of winning.
This season is PENN states anyway and so maybe that had something to do with saving the Nil and transfer portal. It is better I do believe to take a look after this season. See how guys develop. Where will davino go? Will kilkeary and rotogokze and geog and Walsh be that guy who can be a high all American? Will paddy improve ?
There are too many question marks and it is too early to evaluate maybe future talent but I think it’s way too much to say every guy in the lineup is a top 12 guy. No one out there believes that for this season. Not trying to be mean or out of line but no way everyone in the lineup this season is a top 12 guy. Even demilio wasn’t until nationals last year. I would be happy with 7-8 guys that high. 197 is no give me either.
For sure guys in top 12
Sasso
Kharchla if healthy
Bouzoukis
Feldman
Borderline
Demilio
Hepner
Paddy
Geog/ Hoffman
Outside
125. Could be Fenton/ kilkeary / mccrone
Shumate/rotogozke
That’s giving the two freshman the benefit of the doubt and hoping Carson stays healthy.
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Discussion Topic: Tom Ryan in Buckeye HOF
Alex Creech added to this discussion on July 16, 2023
Quote from Jim Behrens's post:
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" But for him to just sit and say he basically has 10 strong weight classes is just a straight lie."
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Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and beliefs (and I do not wear rose colored glasses) but your last statement is more than a little out of line IMO."
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Agreed.
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Discussion Topic: Tom Ryan in Buckeye HOF
Drew Taylor added to this discussion on July 16, 2023
Yes, Tom Ryan perhaps overestimates his lineup. What in the world does that have to do with his credentials for the Hall of Fame?
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Discussion Topic: Tom Ryan in Buckeye HOF
Ben Golden added to this discussion on July 16, 2023
Quote from Drew Taylor's post:
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"Yes, Tom Ryan perhaps overestimates his lineup. What in the world does that have to do with his credentials for the Hall of Fame?"
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I think Nick’s post was a direct response to the interview link posted immediately before Nick’s post. And yes, those are a little off topic.
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