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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on February 3, 2024
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Do they take perverse pride in not shaking hands? Their coaching is beyond reproach but sometimes they seem to act as if failing to show sportsmanship is excusable due to some code of conduct that they alone follow.
Referring to none of the PSU coaches shaking hands with Nic Bouzakis after he clobbered Nagao.
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on February 3, 2024
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First I ever heard them called unsportsmanlike.
I've always observed them shaking hands with their opponents.
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Roe Fox added to this discussion on February 3, 2024
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I don’t believe their wrestlers shake the other coaches hands.
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Roe Fox added to this discussion on February 3, 2024
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I don’t believe their wrestlers shake the other coaches hands.
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on February 3, 2024
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Quote from Brady Hiatt's post:
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"First I ever heard them called unsportsmanlike.
I've always observed them shaking hands with their opponents."
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Last night NB walked over after the match and no one was looking his way. NB stood there, shrugged, and walked away.
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Ben Golden added to this discussion on February 4, 2024
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Could have just been that they didn't notice him. I've also seen them shake hands on many occasions... I remember seeing Cael shake Dake's hands and give him kind words after beating Taylor in NCAA finals, for instance.
With that said, they weren't in view of the camera when Bouzakis came over, so it's tough to say what was going on.
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Rick Wasmer added to this discussion on February 4, 2024
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Did their wrestlers come over to OSU coaches after matches to shake hands?
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Ben Golden added to this discussion on February 4, 2024
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In high school, hand shaking has always been expected etiquette. College isn’t really that way. Many wrestlers do it, many don’t. It usually goes unnoticed.
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Michael Rodriguez added to this discussion on February 5, 2024
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During my time in high school, shaking hands with the opposing coach after your individual bout was not the standard.
We would shake hands with our opponent before the dual started (when the match-ups were announced), then again before the bout and once again after the bout. But then we'd just head back to the bench.
Then, after the dual was complete, we'd line up and shake everyone's hand, including coaches. Throughout my four years in high school in Northeast Ohio, this was the standard. I'm not really sure when shaking the opposing coach's hand after your individual bout became the standard...and the absence of that became poor sportsmanship?
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Jim Behrens added to this discussion on February 5, 2024
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Mike's question made me wonder when the handshake with the opposing coach started. Because I have a pretty large email directory, I sent an email to guys who were coaches WAY back then. Honestly I was surprised that the answers were all over the place so it appears like no one can remember for sure.
Below are the responses I got.
I know, because it was Cleveland Heights in 1976-77. I have the Cleveland Press article that talks about it.
Jim, I started wrestling in 1960 and we did it then. I’m guessing it started back in the ancient world in Greece with the Olympics. I go a long way but not that far. I do remember Gene Gibbons being the dean of wrestling in Cleveland. I wonder if his son would know?
I'm thinking the 70's. I don't remember doing at all during my career, which ended in 1975 at CSU!
Right around 1990!
My best guess is in the 80's. We didn't do it in the 70's, I would guess 83 or 84, just a guess and far from an educated one.
I believe late 70's early 80"s.
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on February 5, 2024
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Shaking or not shaking the coaches hand after a match isn't my definition of sportsmanlike or unsportsmanlike.
How you act in competition is.
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on February 5, 2024
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Quote from Brady Hiatt's post:
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"Shaking or not shaking the coaches hand after a match isn't my definition of sportsmanlike or unsportsmanlike.
How you act in competition is."
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So it's ok to ignore a wrestler who comes over to shake hands? That's not part of your definition?
I understand they may not have seen him. But that's not what you're saying.
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on February 5, 2024
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Quote from Hank Kornblut's post:
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Quote from Brady Hiatt's post:
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"Shaking or not shaking the coaches hand after a match isn't my definition of sportsmanlike or unsportsmanlike.
How you act in competition is."
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So it's ok to ignore a wrestler who comes over to shake hands? That's not part of your definition?
I understand they may not have seen him. But that's not what you're saying."
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No, not OK, but again, I've never seen them do that. Cael waited on the mat to congratulate Dale after he won 4 -- well beyond normal time when nobody would have said anything to him walking off. So to assume they shunned NB after a win in a dual they were going to win by a large margin anyways would be completely out of character.
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on February 5, 2024
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...and I was chiming on he "hand shaking of opposing coach" thing. Not the NB situation.
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Discussion Topic: What's the Deal with PSU Coaches?
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on February 5, 2024
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Fair enough. I'm just ticked because you were right about Rogotzke ;)
Honestly, this topic has a weak premise and I know it. Sometimes I just want to hear what people say. Message received. I'm off base in my criticism.
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