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Discussion Topic: The Game
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on November 30, 2024
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Discussion Topic: The Game
Mark Niemann added to this discussion on November 30, 2024
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Discussion Topic: The Game
Christopher Henderson added to this discussion on November 30, 2024
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Time to give Ryan Day the John Cooper treatment and move on. No one from Ohio missed him.
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Discussion Topic: The Game
Rex Holman added to this discussion on December 1, 2024
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I know it's the game; but the constant flexes and in your face antics were over the top for me. Add in poor play and I stopped watching.
I watch OSU harder than I do Michigan and they played way too emotional. Take a lesson from Cael and just be really good at the job you're supposed to do and the wins will take care of themselves.
OSU played like style and feels were greenlit over substance.
Everything you do has to have a purpose that serves an end goal. The end goal is to be great or rather it should be. When actively behaving like your opponent is the enemy and to be demeaned is allowed by a coach who talks in hyperbole of going to war. What does that have to do with being great?
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Discussion Topic: The Game
Roe Fox added to this discussion on December 1, 2024
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I like Ryan Day. But he talks too much about being tough without getting it out of his players, primarily the lines.
Win the line of scrimmage, win this game. It has always been this way in this game especially.
The Senator and Urb were never accused of having soft teams. You get that rep because, well, sometimes you are.
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Discussion Topic: The Game
Roe Fox added to this discussion on December 1, 2024
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I like Ryan Day. But he talks too much about being tough without getting it out of his players, primarily the lines.
Win the line of scrimmage, win this game. It has always been this way in this game especially.
The Senator and Urb were never accused of having soft teams. You get that rep because, well, sometimes you are.
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Discussion Topic: The Game
Hank Kornblut added to this discussion on December 1, 2024
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Quote from Rex Holman's post:
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"I know it's the game; but the constant flexes and in your face antics were over the top for me. Add in poor play and I stopped watching.
I watch OSU harder than I do Michigan and they played way too emotional. Take a lesson from Cael and just be really good at the job you're supposed to do and the wins will take care of themselves.
OSU played like style and feels were greenlit over substance.
Everything you do has to have a purpose that serves an end goal. The end goal is to be great or rather it should be. When actively behaving like your opponent is the enemy and to be demeaned is allowed by a coach who talks in hyperbole of going to war. What does that have to do with being great?"
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Wish there was a way to share this with football fans. So many great insights in this post.
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Discussion Topic: The Game
Jason L. Jackson added to this discussion on December 1, 2024
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I see it differently. Day became too obsessed with being tougher and forgot about what makes OSU so good, their passing game. He challenged a bear to a wrestling match for no reason. His ego got the best of him.
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Discussion Topic: The Game
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on December 1, 2024
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Quote from Jason L. Jackson's post:
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"I see it differently. Day became too obsessed with being tougher and forgot about what makes OSU so good, their passing game. He challenged a bear to a wrestling match for no reason. His ego got the best of him."
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My take also.
Rex -- I said similar comments (just play the game and relax on the "war" stuff) but was told that since I didn't grow up in Ohio, I don't really "get" THE GAME.
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Discussion Topic: The Game
Rex Holman added to this discussion on December 1, 2024
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Brady-
I hear you. Grew up in UA, adjacent to OSU. My Grandpa was Captain and quarterback for tOSU in 1929.
Growing up; if OSU wins, a sense of optimism and pride. If OSU loses, dejection and hurt.
It gets ingrained at a young age, no different than church and religion. It really impacts your belief system and your behavior.
Until you begin to critically think about it. To tie your expectation to something you have absolutely no control over. To pin your hopes to the outcome of a competition amongst a bunch of twentysomethings guided by guys making millions of dollars to play a game is just a market event.
It's the red or blue pill from the Matrix. Can you look at it objectively for what it is or are you so caught up in your emotions and stories from a lifetime of culture that it is more than just a game.
At the end of the day, stories are just stories. If you pay too much homage to a made-up story rather than what actually exists, then you are going to crash and burn.
My dad brought up a good point and I had the same thought. The Buckeyes peaked last week and played a great game. They shot their proverbial wad and played extremely flat this week.
Did the same against Purdue back in 1969/70? Beat a very tough Purdue team and then lost to Michigan the following week.
Caught a snippet of Cael speaking about Lilledahl. To paraphrase, he said his greatest strength was his consistency and openness to improve. You don't have to show up and put forth a Herculean effort. What you have to do, is show up and consistently improve your standard of performance.
The appearance of A Herculean effort can be the result gradually conditioning yourself to an extremely high standard.
If you rely on exhausting yourself in the attempt of a great performance, then the next time you need to call on that type of effort, you might find yourself a little off/flat.
Consistency every time all the time. Not too high, not to low. Influence the variables that matter, and which you have control over.
How much energy is spent on things which you don't control or that even matter?
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Discussion Topic: The Game
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on December 1, 2024
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When I was younger, the results of these games would impact me more. As I grew older, I realized that when a truly tragic event happened to me or a loved one, not a single person on that team that I would "ride or die" with cared about what had just happened. So to have the result of a game, even THE game, affect your mood, day, week, or year is, quite crazy to me -- but then again, I didn't grow up here so what do I know.
perfect points about the approach Cael takes. It seems that athletes and teams that do this are the ones that are consistently winning.
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Discussion Topic: The Game
Brady Hiatt added to this discussion on December 1, 2024
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When I was younger, the results of these games would impact me more. As I grew older, I realized that when a truly tragic event happened to me or a loved one, not a single person on that team that I would "ride or die" with cared about what had just happened. So to have the result of a game, even THE game, affect your mood, day, week, or year is, quite crazy to me -- but then again, I didn't grow up here so what do I know.
perfect points about the approach Cael takes. It seems that athletes and teams that do this are the ones that are consistently winning.
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